1 00:00:54,389 --> 00:00:25,750 [Music] 2 00:00:58,790 --> 00:00:57,270 what's up everybody happy freaking 3 00:01:02,069 --> 00:00:58,800 monday 4 00:01:03,590 --> 00:01:02,079 um i don't know how it is by you 5 00:01:05,670 --> 00:01:03,600 i got some snow 6 00:01:07,510 --> 00:01:05,680 about five inches which is just 7 00:01:11,350 --> 00:01:07,520 incredible to me because it was 8 00:01:13,030 --> 00:01:11,360 literally like 60 degrees the other day 9 00:01:15,350 --> 00:01:13,040 um 10 00:01:19,670 --> 00:01:15,360 i've been feeling uh a little bit 11 00:01:25,270 --> 00:01:23,270 i don't know almost like um 12 00:01:27,670 --> 00:01:25,280 i've been like kind of just like 13 00:01:28,469 --> 00:01:27,680 mentally disappearing almost at times 14 00:01:33,030 --> 00:01:28,479 and 15 00:01:33,910 --> 00:01:33,040 i'm just 16 00:01:34,950 --> 00:01:33,920 like 17 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:34,960 gone 18 00:01:48,149 --> 00:01:43,429 you know it's just so weird 19 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:54,389 it's every time i close my eyes 20 00:02:01,190 --> 00:01:56,070 see it's just so weird 21 00:02:04,469 --> 00:02:02,480 oh yeah 22 00:02:07,109 --> 00:02:04,479 [Laughter] 23 00:02:09,589 --> 00:02:07,119 sorry feeling a little 24 00:02:11,430 --> 00:02:09,599 feeling a little goofy today 25 00:02:12,710 --> 00:02:11,440 you know but you know 26 00:02:17,170 --> 00:02:12,720 sometimes it's pretty good to just 27 00:02:24,150 --> 00:02:20,390 [Laughter] 28 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:27,589 um jose what's happening andres um 29 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:29,040 esmerelda 30 00:02:33,589 --> 00:02:32,080 how are you steph 31 00:02:35,589 --> 00:02:33,599 um 32 00:02:38,309 --> 00:02:35,599 oh first time awesome feels like the 33 00:02:41,509 --> 00:02:38,319 first time pretty cool 34 00:02:44,470 --> 00:02:41,519 eh benji what's uh happening mate 35 00:02:47,670 --> 00:02:44,480 and lionel what's going on 36 00:02:49,589 --> 00:02:47,680 awesome to have everybody here 37 00:02:51,990 --> 00:02:49,599 you guys are the best so there's a 38 00:02:54,390 --> 00:02:52,000 couple things that i wanted to do today 39 00:02:55,270 --> 00:02:54,400 one is 40 00:02:58,149 --> 00:02:55,280 um 41 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:58,159 in 1967 42 00:03:02,390 --> 00:03:00,879 uh professor james mcdonald actually 43 00:03:05,270 --> 00:03:02,400 wrote a letter 44 00:03:07,670 --> 00:03:05,280 to the united nations 45 00:03:11,190 --> 00:03:07,680 um to the outer space 46 00:03:13,670 --> 00:03:11,200 uh committee for the united nations 47 00:03:15,190 --> 00:03:13,680 and the letter is 48 00:03:20,309 --> 00:03:15,200 um pretty 49 00:03:22,949 --> 00:03:20,319 convicted it's great so i wanted to 50 00:03:23,990 --> 00:03:22,959 i read that and you know i really enjoy 51 00:03:26,229 --> 00:03:24,000 reading his stuff because there's so 52 00:03:29,350 --> 00:03:26,239 much conviction in it 53 00:03:30,830 --> 00:03:29,360 so we're gonna do that and 54 00:03:34,149 --> 00:03:30,840 we have a 55 00:03:35,509 --> 00:03:34,159 great uh segment for what the heck is 56 00:03:38,470 --> 00:03:35,519 that today 57 00:03:39,830 --> 00:03:38,480 where we play ufo videos 58 00:03:41,750 --> 00:03:39,840 um and 59 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:41,760 just kind of ask what the heck is that 60 00:03:44,470 --> 00:03:42,640 you know 61 00:03:45,589 --> 00:03:44,480 and then we have some really great air 62 00:03:47,910 --> 00:03:45,599 force 63 00:03:50,949 --> 00:03:47,920 base cases ufo cases 64 00:03:53,750 --> 00:03:50,959 where these people at the air force base 65 00:03:56,070 --> 00:03:53,760 saw a strange object and they freaking 66 00:03:57,110 --> 00:03:56,080 reported it as a ufo 67 00:03:59,670 --> 00:03:57,120 and 68 00:04:01,350 --> 00:03:59,680 that to me is like 69 00:04:04,070 --> 00:04:01,360 if these people are seeing it at the 70 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:04,080 frickin air force base 71 00:04:08,550 --> 00:04:07,040 i mean what more do you want 72 00:04:09,589 --> 00:04:08,560 i mean it's interesting too because 73 00:04:13,830 --> 00:04:09,599 people 74 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:13,840 to you know the latest cases tic tac 75 00:04:16,710 --> 00:04:15,920 nimitz rightfully so that's newest i get 76 00:04:18,629 --> 00:04:16,720 it 77 00:04:21,909 --> 00:04:18,639 um 78 00:04:23,590 --> 00:04:21,919 but our military and at our freaking air 79 00:04:25,510 --> 00:04:23,600 force bases they've been seeing this 80 00:04:27,990 --> 00:04:25,520 stuff for a while so we're gonna touch 81 00:04:30,150 --> 00:04:28,000 on a couple of those things including a 82 00:04:32,390 --> 00:04:30,160 bunch of photographs that have been 83 00:04:34,390 --> 00:04:32,400 taken at air force bases they're older 84 00:04:36,469 --> 00:04:34,400 photographs from blue book 85 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:36,479 but i thought it would be worth 86 00:04:42,469 --> 00:04:38,880 taking a look at those 87 00:04:43,510 --> 00:04:42,479 as well 88 00:04:45,510 --> 00:04:43,520 so 89 00:04:47,990 --> 00:04:45,520 i think 90 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:48,000 the first thing we could start with here 91 00:04:52,469 --> 00:04:48,960 is 92 00:04:53,990 --> 00:04:52,479 um the letter written by professor 93 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:54,000 mcdonald 94 00:04:58,550 --> 00:04:56,320 it's about 18 19 minutes so i'll 95 00:05:01,189 --> 00:04:58,560 probably play i'll play half of it 96 00:05:03,270 --> 00:05:01,199 um come back we'll do some other stuff 97 00:05:04,790 --> 00:05:03,280 um and then we'll go back to it and 98 00:05:07,749 --> 00:05:04,800 finish it up 99 00:05:10,870 --> 00:05:09,510 actually why don't i just let the whole 100 00:05:12,870 --> 00:05:10,880 thing roll 101 00:05:14,790 --> 00:05:12,880 yeah so it's about 19 minutes you know 102 00:05:16,550 --> 00:05:14,800 the interesting thing about this is oh 103 00:05:21,029 --> 00:05:16,560 yeah duh 104 00:05:26,150 --> 00:05:23,670 you know sometimes i'm so forgetful it's 105 00:05:28,230 --> 00:05:26,160 incredible 106 00:05:31,189 --> 00:05:28,240 but i wanted to start with um 107 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:31,199 mr chris mellon's article 108 00:05:35,749 --> 00:05:32,880 that he wrote 109 00:05:36,790 --> 00:05:35,759 on with the the hill website 110 00:05:39,110 --> 00:05:36,800 it's 111 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:39,120 very interesting article 112 00:05:43,749 --> 00:05:42,479 it's pretty good you know he's always 113 00:05:45,590 --> 00:05:43,759 really well 114 00:05:49,189 --> 00:05:45,600 written 115 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,199 what he's doing 116 00:05:53,430 --> 00:05:51,360 and he kind of hammers home on the over 117 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:53,440 classification 118 00:05:55,510 --> 00:05:54,639 of 119 00:05:57,270 --> 00:05:55,520 you know 120 00:05:59,270 --> 00:05:57,280 in this regards i believe it's to like 121 00:06:02,150 --> 00:05:59,280 videos and photos 122 00:06:04,309 --> 00:06:02,160 and how that could actually be 123 00:06:08,469 --> 00:06:04,319 a detriment to 124 00:06:10,150 --> 00:06:08,479 national security in and of itself 125 00:06:18,950 --> 00:06:10,160 so 126 00:06:21,749 --> 00:06:20,629 for yourself we're not going to watch 127 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:21,759 the video 128 00:06:26,950 --> 00:06:23,680 uh what we're going to do is look at the 129 00:06:31,749 --> 00:06:29,749 so you can read for yourself obviously 130 00:06:33,110 --> 00:06:31,759 and that's what you should do 131 00:06:34,710 --> 00:06:33,120 but interesting things that it 132 00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:34,720 highlights director of national 133 00:06:38,550 --> 00:06:36,639 intelligence avril haynes recently 134 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:38,560 acknowledged that excessive government 135 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:40,479 classification undermines u.s national 136 00:06:44,070 --> 00:06:42,160 security 137 00:06:46,830 --> 00:06:44,080 as she wrote in january in a letter to 138 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:46,840 u.s senators which was 139 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:50,720 uh great i thought 140 00:06:55,510 --> 00:06:52,880 and you know it's hard to 141 00:06:57,430 --> 00:06:55,520 you know no one to take something as in 142 00:06:58,710 --> 00:06:57,440 regards to uab or not because there's 143 00:07:02,390 --> 00:06:58,720 nothing she talked about that was 144 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:02,400 directly about uap but i think 145 00:07:07,430 --> 00:07:04,800 that the field just generally benefits 146 00:07:12,390 --> 00:07:10,550 you know not being so 147 00:07:17,909 --> 00:07:12,400 not being such a tight ass with the with 148 00:07:21,110 --> 00:07:19,510 she also acknowledged that excessive 149 00:07:22,909 --> 00:07:21,120 classification damages the public's 150 00:07:25,029 --> 00:07:22,919 faith in government and reduces the 151 00:07:27,110 --> 00:07:25,039 intelligence community's capacity to 152 00:07:28,070 --> 00:07:27,120 effectively support senior policy making 153 00:07:28,830 --> 00:07:28,080 decision 154 00:07:32,150 --> 00:07:28,840 i 155 00:07:33,589 --> 00:07:32,160 mean yes 156 00:07:36,790 --> 00:07:33,599 you know 157 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:36,800 i mean the the ufo thing for the past 80 158 00:07:40,150 --> 00:07:39,050 years is has really made um 159 00:07:42,790 --> 00:07:40,160 [Music] 160 00:07:44,950 --> 00:07:42,800 you know has allowed some of the public 161 00:07:47,270 --> 00:07:44,960 to lose some trust in the government 162 00:07:48,309 --> 00:07:47,280 it could be the crux for a lot of the 163 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:48,319 different 164 00:07:57,510 --> 00:07:55,189 you know uh theories out there 165 00:08:01,909 --> 00:07:57,520 even conspiracies ones that are true and 166 00:08:05,589 --> 00:08:04,790 i mean if it happened in 47 it started 167 00:08:08,390 --> 00:08:05,599 then 168 00:08:10,629 --> 00:08:08,400 i'm sure you know people were pretty 169 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:10,639 uh worried about the government uh being 170 00:08:14,150 --> 00:08:12,720 secretive then as well but i mean as far 171 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:14,160 as like the mainstream with television 172 00:08:17,909 --> 00:08:15,840 media all that kind of stuff 173 00:08:21,430 --> 00:08:17,919 um you could almost say that that whole 174 00:08:25,909 --> 00:08:23,510 so to bring it full circle would be 175 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:25,919 fantastic uh chris mellon that mentions 176 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:28,800 the cold war um he says we didn't win 177 00:08:31,589 --> 00:08:30,080 because we were better at protecting 178 00:08:33,990 --> 00:08:31,599 information we won because we were much 179 00:08:35,750 --> 00:08:34,000 better at moving and sharing information 180 00:08:37,430 --> 00:08:35,760 with the marketplace and 181 00:08:38,829 --> 00:08:37,440 um 182 00:08:42,870 --> 00:08:38,839 you know where 183 00:08:44,870 --> 00:08:42,880 that basically allowed us to 184 00:08:46,150 --> 00:08:44,880 outdo 185 00:08:47,509 --> 00:08:46,160 the soviets 186 00:08:50,470 --> 00:08:47,519 at the time 187 00:08:53,350 --> 00:08:51,910 and you could kind of bring it to now 188 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:53,360 with hypersonic missiles which 189 00:08:56,550 --> 00:08:54,800 apparently 190 00:09:01,509 --> 00:08:56,560 we don't have and they do and it's a 191 00:09:01,519 --> 00:09:04,070 so 192 00:09:08,870 --> 00:09:06,630 the department of defense unidentified 193 00:09:11,430 --> 00:09:08,880 aerial phenomena task force issued a new 194 00:09:13,350 --> 00:09:11,440 classification uh guideline last year 195 00:09:14,949 --> 00:09:13,360 that classify as secret the sorts of 196 00:09:17,110 --> 00:09:14,959 videos like gimbal 197 00:09:19,030 --> 00:09:17,120 go fast and clear one 198 00:09:22,310 --> 00:09:19,040 that dod has acknowledged were 199 00:09:24,389 --> 00:09:22,320 unclassified not declassified 200 00:09:26,470 --> 00:09:24,399 when they were released in 2017 the new 201 00:09:28,870 --> 00:09:26,480 blanket of secrecy is apparent from the 202 00:09:31,430 --> 00:09:28,880 dod briefing guide on last year's 203 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:31,440 unclassified uap report which states 204 00:09:35,509 --> 00:09:33,680 except for its existence in the mission 205 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:35,519 purpose virtually everything else about 206 00:09:41,110 --> 00:09:38,560 uaptf is classified 207 00:09:45,030 --> 00:09:41,120 for the second per the security 208 00:09:48,070 --> 00:09:46,550 further evidence of this new effort to 209 00:09:49,990 --> 00:09:48,080 suddenly classify photographic 210 00:09:51,910 --> 00:09:50,000 information of which a formal u.s air 211 00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:51,920 force investigation recently determined 212 00:09:57,110 --> 00:09:54,720 did not cause any damage to national 213 00:09:58,949 --> 00:09:57,120 security 214 00:10:01,829 --> 00:09:58,959 is evident 215 00:10:03,350 --> 00:10:01,839 from the uaptf security classification 216 00:10:05,750 --> 00:10:03,360 guide which appears to classify 217 00:10:13,030 --> 00:10:05,760 virtually all data analyzed by the task 218 00:10:16,470 --> 00:10:15,030 and you know for 219 00:10:17,430 --> 00:10:16,480 you get a lot of people sometimes that 220 00:10:19,509 --> 00:10:17,440 talk about 221 00:10:21,509 --> 00:10:19,519 well you know you can't share everything 222 00:10:22,389 --> 00:10:21,519 you know national security concerns this 223 00:10:24,630 --> 00:10:22,399 and that 224 00:10:25,829 --> 00:10:24,640 um 225 00:10:27,190 --> 00:10:25,839 and of course you don't want to share 226 00:10:28,870 --> 00:10:27,200 that stuff 227 00:10:30,630 --> 00:10:28,880 but if but if the air force is here 228 00:10:32,630 --> 00:10:30,640 saying 229 00:10:36,150 --> 00:10:32,640 that the videos like those like go fast 230 00:10:40,150 --> 00:10:36,160 gimbal and stuff you know we're not 231 00:10:43,910 --> 00:10:41,829 and they wound up bringing awareness to 232 00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:43,920 some vulnerabilities that maybe our 233 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,590 what's the problem 234 00:10:56,710 --> 00:10:53,670 what is the problem mentions how it 235 00:10:59,509 --> 00:10:56,720 spoken 1957 they had no choice but to 236 00:11:03,110 --> 00:10:59,519 tell the public about that because 237 00:11:07,590 --> 00:11:05,750 but that's what ufos is you know kind of 238 00:11:09,590 --> 00:11:07,600 like at this point 239 00:11:12,470 --> 00:11:09,600 anybody who actually pays attention or 240 00:11:16,790 --> 00:11:12,480 does any research in the ufo field 241 00:11:19,430 --> 00:11:16,800 already knows that ufo's uap exists 242 00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:19,440 and so to not 243 00:11:26,710 --> 00:11:21,040 share information that the government 244 00:11:30,470 --> 00:11:28,389 interesting that chris mellon recently 245 00:11:32,389 --> 00:11:30,480 joined scientific coalition for uap 246 00:11:39,190 --> 00:11:32,399 studies along with the 247 00:11:44,310 --> 00:11:40,829 so he is 248 00:11:47,350 --> 00:11:44,320 definitely um continuing 249 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:47,360 and almost ramping up his activity here 250 00:11:50,870 --> 00:11:49,200 which is great for us because 251 00:11:52,710 --> 00:11:50,880 the guy is obviously 252 00:11:55,509 --> 00:11:52,720 very smart and knows the political 253 00:11:57,590 --> 00:11:55,519 aspects of all this 254 00:11:59,670 --> 00:11:57,600 and you know him and alexander pretty 255 00:12:00,790 --> 00:11:59,680 much are 256 00:12:02,310 --> 00:12:00,800 um 257 00:12:11,269 --> 00:12:02,320 responsible for all the hard work they 258 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:13,670 you know when i went 259 00:12:16,710 --> 00:12:15,279 what kind of got me on this uh james 260 00:12:19,269 --> 00:12:16,720 mcdonald kick 261 00:12:24,310 --> 00:12:21,509 i'm not gonna lie christopher mellon in 262 00:12:28,069 --> 00:12:24,320 his article before this where he really 263 00:12:34,550 --> 00:12:31,030 i'm just thinking like 264 00:12:36,710 --> 00:12:34,560 and you know he's not the first 265 00:12:39,269 --> 00:12:36,720 hopefully he's the last but he is not 266 00:12:40,389 --> 00:12:39,279 the first and james mcdonald was 267 00:12:42,230 --> 00:12:40,399 um 268 00:12:45,430 --> 00:12:42,240 eloquent 269 00:12:50,470 --> 00:12:47,350 and artistic 270 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:51,509 damning 271 00:12:59,590 --> 00:12:53,040 of the secrecy 272 00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:02,310 so you should read this article yourself 273 00:13:05,670 --> 00:13:04,320 it's a great article 274 00:13:14,550 --> 00:13:05,680 um 275 00:13:17,350 --> 00:13:14,560 so just wanted to share that with you 276 00:13:19,829 --> 00:13:17,360 kind of give you an idea what brought me 277 00:13:26,470 --> 00:13:19,839 into 278 00:13:29,509 --> 00:13:27,829 ufo joe 279 00:13:31,670 --> 00:13:29,519 interview with lou is amazing of course 280 00:13:33,030 --> 00:13:31,680 was amazing 281 00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:33,040 of course it was 282 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:37,910 yeah 283 00:13:48,949 --> 00:13:45,750 um he's not afraid to say what he means 284 00:13:50,230 --> 00:13:48,959 see how he feels 285 00:13:53,030 --> 00:13:50,240 but his 286 00:13:54,470 --> 00:13:53,040 the sides he takes 287 00:14:00,829 --> 00:13:54,480 you know 288 00:14:02,550 --> 00:14:00,839 he never is on the 289 00:14:05,590 --> 00:14:02,560 side 290 00:14:08,069 --> 00:14:05,600 with no integrity let's say or 291 00:14:10,790 --> 00:14:08,079 the side that brushes things off without 292 00:14:16,150 --> 00:14:10,800 really knowing 293 00:14:20,069 --> 00:14:18,069 on the good side on the light side you 294 00:14:22,629 --> 00:14:20,079 know and so when he goes kind of hard on 295 00:14:24,310 --> 00:14:22,639 people or it gets dramatic 296 00:14:27,750 --> 00:14:24,320 as much as it can make people feel 297 00:14:29,430 --> 00:14:27,760 uncomfortable i typically agree with 298 00:14:31,509 --> 00:14:29,440 what he talks about i just don't have 299 00:14:32,870 --> 00:14:31,519 the balls to say it 300 00:14:34,710 --> 00:14:32,880 more or less 301 00:14:36,870 --> 00:14:34,720 i can't say that for everything because 302 00:14:38,870 --> 00:14:36,880 i don't know everything that he said or 303 00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:38,880 whatever 304 00:14:42,069 --> 00:14:39,920 but even 305 00:14:45,110 --> 00:14:42,079 he's a great dude and then on 306 00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:45,120 so put that to the side for now 307 00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:47,680 just in regards to this topic 308 00:14:54,949 --> 00:14:50,959 he's been around it for a long time 309 00:14:57,590 --> 00:14:54,959 he's dedicated to it he writes the best 310 00:15:01,189 --> 00:14:57,600 breakdowns of interviews on twitter so 311 00:15:05,750 --> 00:15:03,829 that takes a lot of time 312 00:15:17,110 --> 00:15:05,760 you know 313 00:15:18,230 --> 00:15:17,120 this topic like whether it be 314 00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:18,240 um 315 00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,480 you know hit the hitchhiker thing 316 00:15:24,710 --> 00:15:22,959 he looks at the skinwalker ranch he 317 00:15:26,629 --> 00:15:24,720 looks at the history 318 00:15:29,749 --> 00:15:26,639 he looks at the now he looks at he 319 00:15:33,749 --> 00:15:29,759 speculates but doesn't commit 320 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:35,670 you can speculate all day long and 321 00:15:48,230 --> 00:15:43,030 but committing 322 00:15:55,030 --> 00:15:51,590 is is the issue but he is like the best 323 00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:55,040 ed's speculating and then saying but 324 00:16:02,710 --> 00:16:00,550 you know and i just love that about him 325 00:16:04,230 --> 00:16:02,720 so when he did when he was going to do 326 00:16:06,310 --> 00:16:04,240 the interview with lou i was pretty 327 00:16:07,430 --> 00:16:06,320 excited about it because i knew that he 328 00:16:09,590 --> 00:16:07,440 would have 329 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:09,600 the right questions he would ask great 330 00:16:17,829 --> 00:16:15,110 questions he wants to ask questions 331 00:16:19,670 --> 00:16:17,839 people want him to ask 332 00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:19,680 and 333 00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:21,199 you know he got a lot of new stuff out 334 00:16:24,310 --> 00:16:23,120 there 335 00:16:26,230 --> 00:16:24,320 regarding 336 00:16:29,430 --> 00:16:26,240 you know the one of the authors of the 337 00:16:31,509 --> 00:16:29,440 preliminary assessment 338 00:16:33,269 --> 00:16:31,519 aviation 339 00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:33,279 uh like intelligence 340 00:16:37,990 --> 00:16:34,880 guy 341 00:16:41,030 --> 00:16:38,000 manager who apparently recently did 342 00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,040 something pretty big for uap 343 00:16:46,790 --> 00:16:42,959 i'm not sure what that is 344 00:16:50,629 --> 00:16:48,790 so 345 00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,639 you guys should definitely 346 00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:52,639 um 347 00:16:56,870 --> 00:16:54,959 watch that interview if you haven't 348 00:16:58,870 --> 00:16:56,880 already 349 00:17:02,310 --> 00:16:58,880 and you know part of the you know what i 350 00:17:06,230 --> 00:17:04,549 alexander doing so many interviews is 351 00:17:08,150 --> 00:17:06,240 that everyone 352 00:17:10,870 --> 00:17:08,160 that interviews him 353 00:17:12,789 --> 00:17:10,880 has something different to ask 354 00:17:14,069 --> 00:17:12,799 you know or questions 355 00:17:18,150 --> 00:17:14,079 there are questions i wouldn't have 356 00:17:22,390 --> 00:17:19,909 you know 357 00:17:25,270 --> 00:17:22,400 somebody actually asked me to ask lou 358 00:17:26,949 --> 00:17:25,280 about uh the baiting aspect of ufos and 359 00:17:32,630 --> 00:17:26,959 i 360 00:17:35,190 --> 00:17:32,640 have known better but 361 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:35,200 i assumed that he wouldn't be able to 362 00:17:41,270 --> 00:17:38,960 talk about it so i didn't ask 363 00:17:44,310 --> 00:17:41,280 and little did i know he's on uh 364 00:17:47,430 --> 00:17:44,320 christina gomez uh show she asks and he 365 00:17:51,990 --> 00:17:47,440 gives an answer 366 00:17:56,390 --> 00:17:53,909 to have different people asking 367 00:17:58,070 --> 00:17:56,400 different questions because for instance 368 00:18:01,270 --> 00:17:58,080 if it was just me 369 00:18:03,430 --> 00:18:01,280 we wouldn't have had that 370 00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:03,440 so thankfully you know christina comes 371 00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:04,799 in as that 372 00:18:08,390 --> 00:18:06,640 joe has a great interview not to mention 373 00:18:10,310 --> 00:18:08,400 vinnie disclosure team interviewed him 374 00:18:12,390 --> 00:18:10,320 before then 375 00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:12,400 and he has a completely different kind 376 00:18:17,430 --> 00:18:15,039 of conversation with this artisan tony 377 00:18:21,590 --> 00:18:18,789 all all 378 00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:21,600 sorts of great stuff 379 00:18:25,750 --> 00:18:22,960 so 380 00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:25,760 i think that's fantastic 381 00:18:28,390 --> 00:18:27,039 and for anybody who actually pays 382 00:18:30,630 --> 00:18:28,400 attention and watches all the different 383 00:18:31,750 --> 00:18:30,640 things you can pick those pieces from 384 00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:31,760 the different 385 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:35,520 uh interviews or whatever you know 386 00:18:42,230 --> 00:18:37,919 and put it together so 387 00:18:48,549 --> 00:18:44,950 pretty pretty pretty cool so interesting 388 00:18:50,549 --> 00:18:48,559 stuff going on uh right now uh we'll see 389 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:50,559 what happens you know the kind of 390 00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:52,480 exciting part of 391 00:19:00,710 --> 00:18:55,679 the ufo world uap world is you really 392 00:19:04,710 --> 00:19:02,870 like one morning you could have a really 393 00:19:06,230 --> 00:19:04,720 thoughtful piece written by somebody 394 00:19:09,430 --> 00:19:06,240 like christopher mellon super 395 00:19:10,870 --> 00:19:09,440 intelligent guy the next day 396 00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:10,880 you could have 397 00:19:14,390 --> 00:19:12,400 something huge that happens you know 398 00:19:17,110 --> 00:19:14,400 what whatever it be and it could be 399 00:19:19,110 --> 00:19:17,120 quiet for a while 400 00:19:20,950 --> 00:19:19,120 it's it's somewhat of a rollercoaster 401 00:19:21,830 --> 00:19:20,960 that's for sure 402 00:19:23,430 --> 00:19:21,840 um 403 00:19:25,350 --> 00:19:23,440 but i can't help 404 00:19:27,669 --> 00:19:25,360 but feel that we're all kind of a part 405 00:19:30,470 --> 00:19:27,679 of history right now 406 00:19:33,110 --> 00:19:30,480 so um i definitely take solace in that 407 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:33,120 in the slot times 408 00:19:37,190 --> 00:19:35,200 so with that being said i want to take 409 00:19:40,870 --> 00:19:37,200 us back 410 00:19:42,070 --> 00:19:40,880 to 1967. james mcdonald writes a piece 411 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:42,080 to 412 00:19:47,029 --> 00:19:44,880 the united nations 413 00:19:48,310 --> 00:19:47,039 and 414 00:19:50,789 --> 00:19:48,320 you know what's very interesting with 415 00:19:52,549 --> 00:19:50,799 this is because we still even see pushes 416 00:19:54,230 --> 00:19:52,559 now with the united nations right with 417 00:19:54,590 --> 00:19:54,240 louis elizondo 418 00:19:58,950 --> 00:19:54,600 um 419 00:20:02,549 --> 00:20:00,470 and there's always talk about it and 420 00:20:06,710 --> 00:20:02,559 there are other instances where 421 00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,720 you know the the heir gary from granada 422 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:08,000 uh 423 00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:09,360 actually got really close to getting 424 00:20:17,350 --> 00:20:15,350 um but then got kicked out as the leader 425 00:20:20,070 --> 00:20:17,360 of his country while he was 426 00:20:22,470 --> 00:20:20,080 uh almost about to seal that deal 427 00:20:25,750 --> 00:20:22,480 interesting but this is just a really 428 00:20:28,070 --> 00:20:25,760 well written letter and it's i just love 429 00:20:31,350 --> 00:20:28,080 james mcdonald's work so i took the time 430 00:20:32,950 --> 00:20:31,360 to read it out uh and try to be um you 431 00:20:34,710 --> 00:20:32,960 know passionate and do it with 432 00:20:36,789 --> 00:20:34,720 conviction because unfortunately james 433 00:20:37,909 --> 00:20:36,799 mcdonald is no longer with us he killed 434 00:20:38,260 --> 00:20:37,919 himself 435 00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:38,270 um 436 00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:40,559 [Music] 437 00:20:45,190 --> 00:20:43,440 which is just such a sad way to go 438 00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:45,200 uh because he was such a smart man you 439 00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:47,120 know 440 00:20:56,789 --> 00:20:54,230 he's at university of phoenix 441 00:20:58,070 --> 00:20:56,799 and atmospheric physics i believe so 442 00:20:59,669 --> 00:20:58,080 uh without 443 00:21:02,870 --> 00:20:59,679 further ado 444 00:21:07,909 --> 00:21:02,880 i really hope you enjoy it as much as i 445 00:21:13,350 --> 00:21:10,630 dr james mcdonald writes to the 446 00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:13,360 secretary general 447 00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,760 at the united 448 00:21:19,430 --> 00:21:17,679 says dear sir 449 00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:19,440 i wish to thank you again for making it 450 00:21:23,430 --> 00:21:21,200 possible for me to meet with the united 451 00:21:25,990 --> 00:21:23,440 nations outer space affairs group on 452 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,000 june 7th to discuss international 453 00:21:31,350 --> 00:21:28,720 scientific aspects of the problem of 454 00:21:33,430 --> 00:21:31,360 ufos 455 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:33,440 enclosed is a copy of the statement 456 00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:35,520 which i'm submitting on june 7th to the 457 00:21:39,669 --> 00:21:37,760 outer space affairs group it summarizes 458 00:21:44,310 --> 00:21:39,679 briefly my reasons for urging immediate 459 00:21:46,470 --> 00:21:44,320 united nations action on the ufo problem 460 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:46,480 the problem is one of very large 461 00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:48,960 dimensions so brief summary of this sort 462 00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,120 can only present in barest outline 463 00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:55,280 the apparent nature of the ufo problem 464 00:22:01,270 --> 00:21:59,600 in possible modes of scientific attack 465 00:22:03,270 --> 00:22:01,280 i believe that a serious and determined 466 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:03,280 effort on the part of the united nations 467 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,120 to assemble information on the problem 468 00:22:09,350 --> 00:22:06,880 and to encourage immediate scientific 469 00:22:11,029 --> 00:22:09,360 attention to the problem among all 470 00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:11,039 member nations 471 00:22:14,870 --> 00:22:13,280 would be a substantial step towards 472 00:22:17,350 --> 00:22:14,880 removing 473 00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:17,360 the ridicule lid 474 00:22:24,230 --> 00:22:19,679 that is now so powerfully suppressing 475 00:22:29,190 --> 00:22:26,870 many other u n actions could and should 476 00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:29,200 be taken to escalate world scientific 477 00:22:38,310 --> 00:22:36,710 as i have indicated in my enclosed 478 00:22:39,190 --> 00:22:38,320 statement to the outer space affairs 479 00:22:40,549 --> 00:22:39,200 group 480 00:22:41,990 --> 00:22:40,559 i believe that very serious 481 00:22:44,070 --> 00:22:42,000 consideration must be given to the 482 00:22:46,110 --> 00:22:44,080 hypothesis that these unconventional 483 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:46,120 objects constitute some form of 484 00:22:55,029 --> 00:22:52,950 until i undertook personal study of the 485 00:22:58,549 --> 00:22:55,039 problem i was not able to give credence 486 00:23:05,110 --> 00:23:00,549 after a year's intensive study i must 487 00:23:06,870 --> 00:23:05,120 still regard it as only a hypothesis 488 00:23:08,710 --> 00:23:06,880 but i must emphasize that my findings 489 00:23:10,549 --> 00:23:08,720 drive me strongly toward the view that 490 00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:10,559 this may be the only presently 491 00:23:14,870 --> 00:23:12,799 acceptable hypothesis to account for the 492 00:23:17,830 --> 00:23:14,880 quite astonishing number 493 00:23:19,909 --> 00:23:17,840 of credibly reported low-level 494 00:23:22,549 --> 00:23:19,919 close range sightings of machine-like 495 00:23:27,270 --> 00:23:22,559 objects that are now on record from all 496 00:23:30,789 --> 00:23:29,029 i wish you offer whatever personal 497 00:23:33,190 --> 00:23:30,799 assistance or counsel you or your 498 00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:33,200 colleagues might be able to draw from my 499 00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:37,039 own experience in studying this problem 500 00:23:43,110 --> 00:23:39,520 the ufo problem is an imminently 501 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:43,120 international scientific problem 502 00:23:47,190 --> 00:23:45,360 the united nations has i believe both 503 00:23:49,029 --> 00:23:47,200 responsibilities and obligations to 504 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:49,039 accelerate serious scientific study of 505 00:23:59,269 --> 00:23:57,510 too many serious students of the ufo 506 00:24:01,350 --> 00:23:59,279 phenomenon 507 00:24:03,590 --> 00:24:01,360 it appears conceivable that something in 508 00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:03,600 the nature of a global surveillance by 509 00:24:12,789 --> 00:24:10,630 if there is even a remote chance that 510 00:24:14,310 --> 00:24:12,799 this view is correct 511 00:24:16,230 --> 00:24:14,320 then our present ignorance of the 512 00:24:18,630 --> 00:24:16,240 purpose and plan of such surveillance 513 00:24:19,909 --> 00:24:18,640 must be speedily replaced by maximal 514 00:24:23,029 --> 00:24:19,919 understanding 515 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:25,430 if the entire phenomena is of some other 516 00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,840 nature we need to know this 517 00:24:31,590 --> 00:24:29,679 present ignorance present neglect 518 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,600 present ridicule all constitute 519 00:24:35,190 --> 00:24:33,520 regrettable features of our collective 520 00:24:37,510 --> 00:24:35,200 attitudes 521 00:24:40,070 --> 00:24:37,520 towards what may be a matter of urgent 522 00:24:43,029 --> 00:24:40,080 importance to all the peoples of the 523 00:24:47,260 --> 00:24:45,669 united nations scrutiny of these matters 524 00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:47,270 is in my opinion 525 00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:48,880 [Music] 526 00:24:54,470 --> 00:24:52,080 urgently needed 527 00:24:56,549 --> 00:24:54,480 respectfully yours 528 00:25:03,750 --> 00:24:56,559 james e mcdonald 529 00:25:07,590 --> 00:25:05,669 for 20 years there has been a puzzling 530 00:25:09,269 --> 00:25:07,600 study flow of reports from countries in 531 00:25:11,510 --> 00:25:09,279 all parts of the world concerning what 532 00:25:13,750 --> 00:25:11,520 have come to be termed 533 00:25:15,430 --> 00:25:13,760 ufos 534 00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,440 the nature of the reported objects 535 00:25:19,029 --> 00:25:17,600 appears to be essentially similar in all 536 00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:19,039 of these reports regardless of 537 00:25:23,830 --> 00:25:22,159 geographic locale 538 00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:23,840 during the past 12 months i've been 539 00:25:28,710 --> 00:25:26,720 carrying on an intensive examination of 540 00:25:33,350 --> 00:25:28,720 scientific aspects of the problem of the 541 00:25:35,110 --> 00:25:33,360 ufos as reported within the us 542 00:25:37,350 --> 00:25:35,120 after interviewing key witnesses and 543 00:25:39,149 --> 00:25:37,360 dozens of important cases distributed 544 00:25:40,830 --> 00:25:39,159 over the entire 545 00:25:43,549 --> 00:25:40,840 1947-67 546 00:25:46,149 --> 00:25:43,559 period after discussing the official 547 00:25:48,149 --> 00:25:46,159 investigatory procedures with 548 00:25:50,230 --> 00:25:48,159 u.s air force personnel 549 00:25:52,230 --> 00:25:50,240 after personally checking a large number 550 00:25:54,070 --> 00:25:52,240 of other sources of information on 551 00:25:56,310 --> 00:25:54,080 american sightings 552 00:25:58,710 --> 00:25:56,320 i've concluded that 553 00:26:00,789 --> 00:25:58,720 far from being a nonsense problem 554 00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:00,799 the problem of the ufos 555 00:26:07,750 --> 00:26:03,760 is one of extraordinary scientific 556 00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:09,350 it is my conclusion that no official 557 00:26:15,269 --> 00:26:11,120 group in my country has conducted an 558 00:26:17,510 --> 00:26:15,279 adequate investigation of this problem 559 00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,520 this conclusion is contrary to the 560 00:26:23,269 --> 00:26:19,600 impressions held by many persons both 561 00:26:24,630 --> 00:26:23,279 within and outside the united states 562 00:26:26,950 --> 00:26:24,640 to the effect that a competent 563 00:26:30,630 --> 00:26:26,960 scientific examination of american 564 00:26:32,070 --> 00:26:30,640 reports was being carried out 565 00:26:34,470 --> 00:26:32,080 i fear that this widespread 566 00:26:36,149 --> 00:26:34,480 misimpression has long held up 567 00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,159 scientific attention 568 00:26:41,990 --> 00:26:38,480 to a problem of great international 569 00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:44,149 i have asked for the present opportunity 570 00:26:48,549 --> 00:26:46,720 to appear before the outer space affairs 571 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:48,559 group 572 00:26:53,190 --> 00:26:50,880 because i wish to urge that all possible 573 00:26:55,990 --> 00:26:53,200 steps be taken to immediately by the 574 00:26:57,830 --> 00:26:56,000 united nations organizations 575 00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:57,840 through its scientific staff 576 00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:00,080 and through the scientific facilities of 577 00:27:05,269 --> 00:27:02,559 all its member nations 578 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:05,279 to undertake a systematic global study 579 00:27:15,590 --> 00:27:13,750 there is now strong indication that the 580 00:27:17,510 --> 00:27:15,600 number of reports of close range low 581 00:27:19,750 --> 00:27:17,520 altitude sightings of completely 582 00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:19,760 unconventional aerial objects 583 00:27:23,350 --> 00:27:21,440 exhibiting machine-like features and 584 00:27:25,669 --> 00:27:23,360 displaying inexplicable performance 585 00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:25,679 characteristics has been increasing in 586 00:27:32,389 --> 00:27:30,789 this is certainly apparent within the 587 00:27:34,710 --> 00:27:32,399 united states 588 00:27:37,190 --> 00:27:34,720 i have the strong impression that the 589 00:27:38,950 --> 00:27:37,200 same increase is evident in many foreign 590 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:38,960 areas 591 00:27:43,669 --> 00:27:41,440 my own studies lead me to reject 592 00:27:46,549 --> 00:27:43,679 categorically the view that these are 593 00:27:49,110 --> 00:27:46,559 merely misidentified natural atmospheric 594 00:27:51,269 --> 00:27:49,120 or astronomical phenomena 595 00:27:56,389 --> 00:27:51,279 many official explanations to this 596 00:28:00,549 --> 00:27:58,389 nor is it possible to explain all these 597 00:28:04,149 --> 00:28:00,559 sightings with hypotheses of advanced 598 00:28:06,310 --> 00:28:04,159 technologies or secret test vehicles 599 00:28:08,070 --> 00:28:06,320 with hypotheses of hoax or fraud or 600 00:28:12,310 --> 00:28:08,080 fabrication or with psychological 601 00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,789 each of the latter hypotheses does come 602 00:28:18,870 --> 00:28:16,799 into consideration 603 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,880 in a number of cases but there is still 604 00:28:22,950 --> 00:28:20,880 left an astonishing number of other 605 00:28:25,350 --> 00:28:22,960 reports made by highly credible 606 00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:25,360 observers over the past two decades 607 00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:29,120 which cannot be so explained away 608 00:28:34,070 --> 00:28:31,440 now i believe that this large residue of 609 00:28:38,070 --> 00:28:35,990 now numbering hundreds to perhaps 610 00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,080 thousands of cases 611 00:28:41,730 --> 00:28:40,000 demands the attention of the world's 612 00:28:44,310 --> 00:28:41,740 outstanding scientists 613 00:28:45,909 --> 00:28:44,320 [Music] 614 00:28:47,830 --> 00:28:45,919 because of widespread official 615 00:28:51,269 --> 00:28:47,840 journalistic and even scientific 616 00:28:56,549 --> 00:28:51,279 ridicule almost no scientific intention 617 00:28:59,669 --> 00:28:56,559 is currently being paid to this problem 618 00:29:01,909 --> 00:28:59,679 this situation must i urge be altered 619 00:29:03,590 --> 00:29:01,919 with great dispatch 620 00:29:05,350 --> 00:29:03,600 because the evidence 621 00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:05,360 once examined 622 00:29:08,310 --> 00:29:06,720 closely 623 00:29:10,710 --> 00:29:08,320 as i have attempted to do in recent 624 00:29:13,350 --> 00:29:10,720 months points overwhelmingly to some 625 00:29:17,909 --> 00:29:13,360 phenomenon about which all of us must 626 00:29:22,950 --> 00:29:19,909 official ridicule has to be replaced by 627 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,960 high caliber scientific scrutiny of this 628 00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,720 problem 629 00:29:28,549 --> 00:29:26,240 because of the global nature of the 630 00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,559 phenomenon it 631 00:29:32,710 --> 00:29:30,480 immediately falls into areas where the 632 00:29:34,870 --> 00:29:32,720 united nations organizations must accept 633 00:29:37,430 --> 00:29:34,880 responsibility for encouraging immediate 634 00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:37,440 escalation of scientific examination of 635 00:29:42,549 --> 00:29:40,399 the problem 636 00:29:44,630 --> 00:29:42,559 it is my present view based on what i 637 00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:44,640 believe to be sufficient scientific 638 00:29:51,269 --> 00:29:48,880 consideration of alternative hypothesis 639 00:29:53,269 --> 00:29:51,279 that the most probable hypothesis to 640 00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:53,279 account for the ufo phenomenon is that 641 00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:55,279 these are some type of surveillance 642 00:30:00,950 --> 00:29:56,240 probes 643 00:30:05,669 --> 00:30:03,110 i stress that this can at present be 644 00:30:07,590 --> 00:30:05,679 regarded only as a hypothesis and 645 00:30:12,310 --> 00:30:07,600 against its stand many obvious 646 00:30:16,549 --> 00:30:14,149 and i also emphasize that there are 647 00:30:18,870 --> 00:30:16,559 innumerable facets of the ufo phenomenon 648 00:30:21,990 --> 00:30:18,880 which i can only describe as utterly 649 00:30:26,070 --> 00:30:24,549 and inexplicable in terms of present day 650 00:30:29,510 --> 00:30:26,080 scientific and 651 00:30:31,190 --> 00:30:29,520 technological knowledge 652 00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:31,200 i would also remark that if these 653 00:30:37,190 --> 00:30:34,399 objects are not of e.d origin then 654 00:30:40,870 --> 00:30:37,200 alternative hypotheses that will demand 655 00:30:43,190 --> 00:30:40,880 consideration will be even more bizarre 656 00:30:45,669 --> 00:30:43,200 and perhaps of even greater scientific 657 00:30:48,230 --> 00:30:45,679 interest to all mankind 658 00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:48,240 hence regardless of what 659 00:30:53,510 --> 00:30:51,440 ultimate explanation is found 660 00:30:55,110 --> 00:30:53,520 for the ufo phenomenon 661 00:30:57,190 --> 00:30:55,120 the present scientific neglect and 662 00:30:59,669 --> 00:30:57,200 ridicule must be replaced by scientific 663 00:31:01,669 --> 00:30:59,679 concern in intensive study 664 00:31:03,509 --> 00:31:01,679 and my recommendation to the outer space 665 00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:03,519 affairs group is that it seek all 666 00:31:09,830 --> 00:31:06,000 possible means of securing worldwide 667 00:31:13,110 --> 00:31:11,909 the first need is for erasing the 668 00:31:15,029 --> 00:31:13,120 ridicule 669 00:31:16,950 --> 00:31:15,039 that is quite clearly suppressing open 670 00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:16,960 reporting of sightings of unconventional 671 00:31:22,789 --> 00:31:21,039 objects in the air and on the ground 672 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:22,799 i'm personally quite familiar with the 673 00:31:27,430 --> 00:31:24,559 strong suppressive effects of that 674 00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:27,440 ridicule in my own country 675 00:31:31,750 --> 00:31:29,440 my conversations with scientists and 676 00:31:33,590 --> 00:31:31,760 others from abroad convinces me the 677 00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,600 ridicule and scoffing 678 00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:35,679 in most foreign countries is comparable 679 00:31:40,950 --> 00:31:38,320 to that in the united states 680 00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:40,960 that only a tiny fraction of all reports 681 00:31:49,590 --> 00:31:46,950 this unfortunate situation must be 682 00:31:51,590 --> 00:31:49,600 quickly remedied since all attempts to 683 00:31:55,509 --> 00:31:51,600 discern meaningful patterns 684 00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:55,519 of spatial and temporal distribution 685 00:32:01,990 --> 00:31:58,080 of the sightings are blocked at present 686 00:32:06,470 --> 00:32:03,830 one never knows whether a discern 687 00:32:09,190 --> 00:32:06,480 pattern is only fortuitously related to 688 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:09,200 some local intransigent reduction 689 00:32:15,909 --> 00:32:11,519 in the ridicule with which reports are 690 00:32:19,509 --> 00:32:17,750 serious concern with an unknown and 691 00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:19,519 potentially very important problem must 692 00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:22,000 become the keynote of official handling 693 00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,679 of these ufo sightings throughout the 694 00:32:27,430 --> 00:32:26,000 world to eliminate the ridicule that is 695 00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:27,440 at present suppressing complete 696 00:32:34,710 --> 00:32:32,950 secondly the existence of an already 697 00:32:38,549 --> 00:32:34,720 available sensing system in the form of 698 00:32:41,430 --> 00:32:38,559 radar facilities must be recognized as 699 00:32:43,590 --> 00:32:41,440 exceedingly fortunate 700 00:32:45,430 --> 00:32:43,600 at present most radar sightings of ufos 701 00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:45,440 are not getting into scientific hands 702 00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:48,559 largely because most radar equipment 703 00:32:52,470 --> 00:32:50,799 is operated by military groups who have 704 00:32:56,230 --> 00:32:52,480 not admitted 705 00:32:57,669 --> 00:32:56,240 the existence of a real ufo problem and 706 00:33:00,549 --> 00:32:57,679 who tend 707 00:33:02,630 --> 00:33:00,559 in almost all countries of the world 708 00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:02,640 to ignore 709 00:33:06,389 --> 00:33:04,000 inexplicable 710 00:33:08,549 --> 00:33:06,399 high-speed radar target reports 711 00:33:12,389 --> 00:33:08,559 or else to withhold them 712 00:33:17,830 --> 00:33:14,870 to ignore inexplicable high-speed radar 713 00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:17,840 target reports or else to withhold them 714 00:33:26,230 --> 00:33:23,909 understandable as this is at first 715 00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,240 glance it must quickly be altered no 716 00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,320 other technique now available compares 717 00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:30,720 with radar for gathering objective data 718 00:33:34,389 --> 00:33:32,480 on movements 719 00:33:37,269 --> 00:33:34,399 and operating characteristics of the 720 00:33:39,430 --> 00:33:37,279 ufos 721 00:33:41,350 --> 00:33:39,440 one hopes that superior sensing devices 722 00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:41,360 will be developed as soon as the ufo 723 00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,840 problem is regarded with the seriousness 724 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:45,039 it 725 00:33:52,710 --> 00:33:50,789 but for the immediate future radar 726 00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:52,720 facilities offer greater promise of 727 00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:54,480 supplying scientific data on this 728 00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:55,440 problem 729 00:34:01,509 --> 00:33:58,880 than does any other equipment at hand 730 00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,519 a wide range of electromagnetic 731 00:34:06,950 --> 00:34:04,240 disturbances accompanying close passage 732 00:34:08,869 --> 00:34:06,960 or hovering of the ufos is now on record 733 00:34:10,629 --> 00:34:08,879 throughout the world 734 00:34:13,109 --> 00:34:10,639 despite this record not yet being 735 00:34:16,710 --> 00:34:13,119 admitted into what one would ordinarily 736 00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:18,950 disturbance of internal combustion 737 00:34:24,149 --> 00:34:21,440 engines coincident with close passage of 738 00:34:25,669 --> 00:34:24,159 disk-like or cylindrical unconventional 739 00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:25,679 objects 740 00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:28,480 is on record in at least several hundred 741 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,270 i know personally of dozens of quite 742 00:34:38,710 --> 00:34:35,280 credibly reported cases of that effect 743 00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:38,720 just within the u.s in recent years 744 00:34:42,389 --> 00:34:40,399 and often the disturbances are 745 00:34:44,710 --> 00:34:42,399 accompanied by broad spectrum 746 00:34:46,629 --> 00:34:44,720 electromagnetic noise picked up on radio 747 00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:46,639 devices 748 00:34:51,270 --> 00:34:48,960 and many instances compasses both on 749 00:34:52,629 --> 00:34:51,280 ships and and in aircraft have been 750 00:34:54,950 --> 00:34:52,639 disturbed 751 00:34:56,389 --> 00:34:54,960 mcdometers and even watches have been 752 00:34:58,550 --> 00:34:56,399 affected 753 00:35:00,829 --> 00:34:58,560 all these reports far too numerous to 754 00:35:02,870 --> 00:35:00,839 cite in detail point to some kind of 755 00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:02,880 electromagnetic noise 756 00:35:07,990 --> 00:35:05,520 or electromagnetic side effects that 757 00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,000 offer promise for design of new sensing 758 00:35:14,150 --> 00:35:09,839 devices 759 00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:14,160 developed when competent engineers and 760 00:35:19,510 --> 00:35:16,480 physicists take seriously 761 00:35:20,790 --> 00:35:19,520 the rapidly growing body of reports of 762 00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:20,800 close range 763 00:35:30,870 --> 00:35:28,710 radar must be exploited in the short run 764 00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:30,880 but new devices need to be developed to 765 00:35:34,950 --> 00:35:32,880 supply objective tracking and sensing 766 00:35:36,710 --> 00:35:34,960 techniques 767 00:35:39,109 --> 00:35:36,720 temporal and spatial variations and 768 00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:39,119 occurrences of ufo movements must be 769 00:35:44,710 --> 00:35:41,040 ascertained without the presently 770 00:35:49,829 --> 00:35:47,109 of psychological factors that suppress 771 00:35:53,829 --> 00:35:49,839 the fraction of all sightings 772 00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:56,630 some serious students of the phenomenon 773 00:36:01,589 --> 00:35:59,599 have been asserting for years that there 774 00:36:04,390 --> 00:36:01,599 are discernible patterns 775 00:36:05,829 --> 00:36:04,400 of ufo reconnaissance 776 00:36:08,150 --> 00:36:05,839 i would grant the appearance of some of 777 00:36:10,550 --> 00:36:08,160 these patterns in the reports but i 778 00:36:12,710 --> 00:36:10,560 would be unwilling to attempt to draw 779 00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:12,720 any firm conclusions they're from 780 00:36:18,470 --> 00:36:15,280 since i've seen too much evidence that 781 00:36:20,790 --> 00:36:18,480 we are getting only a very tiny fraction 782 00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:20,800 of all sightings openly or even 783 00:36:26,069 --> 00:36:22,320 confidentially 784 00:36:30,069 --> 00:36:27,990 there's curious evidence still too 785 00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:30,079 inadequately studied to warrant any firm 786 00:36:34,710 --> 00:36:32,320 conclusions that unconventional objects 787 00:36:36,470 --> 00:36:34,720 apparently rather similar in nature to 788 00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:36,480 those that have been reported in our 789 00:36:41,510 --> 00:36:38,720 global airspace in the past two decades 790 00:36:44,950 --> 00:36:41,520 have been seen 791 00:36:46,710 --> 00:36:44,960 prior to 1947 epoch of the marked rise 792 00:36:49,349 --> 00:36:46,720 in sightings 793 00:36:52,230 --> 00:36:49,359 if true this has enormously important 794 00:36:54,310 --> 00:36:52,240 bearing on our ultimate interpretations 795 00:36:56,630 --> 00:36:54,320 of what is going on in the ufo 796 00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:56,640 phenomenon 797 00:37:01,430 --> 00:36:59,280 scholarly examination of that evidence 798 00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,440 needs to be carried out by persons in a 799 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:03,599 wide variety of disciplines 800 00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:05,760 scholars familiar with various historic 801 00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,599 aspects of technology and related fields 802 00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:11,440 and i shall not here attempt to 803 00:37:15,750 --> 00:37:13,680 elaborate details but only stress that 804 00:37:17,990 --> 00:37:15,760 some students of the problem have 805 00:37:20,870 --> 00:37:18,000 assembled cognitive evidence that the 806 00:37:25,589 --> 00:37:20,880 ufo phenomenon may be at least half a 807 00:37:30,069 --> 00:37:27,750 and this remark must then be followed by 808 00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:30,079 emphasis on the faintly disturbing point 809 00:37:34,150 --> 00:37:31,920 that the frequency of sightings 810 00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,160 increased by perhaps two or three orders 811 00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:37,119 of magnitudes either in 46 or 47 for 812 00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,599 reasons which we 813 00:37:43,910 --> 00:37:42,560 do not now understand in the slightest 814 00:37:45,910 --> 00:37:43,920 degree 815 00:37:48,150 --> 00:37:45,920 and that ignorance may not easily be 816 00:37:51,270 --> 00:37:48,160 removed but until we start serious 817 00:37:54,069 --> 00:37:51,280 scientific scrutiny of the ufo problem 818 00:37:56,550 --> 00:37:54,079 we will continue in utter ignorance of 819 00:38:01,589 --> 00:37:56,560 what may be a matter of the utmost 820 00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,030 in summary i again express my 821 00:38:07,510 --> 00:38:05,200 appreciation for this opportunity to 822 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,520 meet with you to discuss this problem 823 00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,839 i urge that the un organization 824 00:38:13,990 --> 00:38:11,680 immediately undertake a review of the 825 00:38:15,990 --> 00:38:14,000 ufo problem possibly through the outer 826 00:38:18,230 --> 00:38:16,000 space affairs group 827 00:38:20,390 --> 00:38:18,240 and i hope that all member nations will 828 00:38:22,310 --> 00:38:20,400 be encouraged to institute review boards 829 00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:22,320 and study panels to examine ufo 830 00:38:27,349 --> 00:38:24,720 sightings in their own countries to 831 00:38:30,790 --> 00:38:27,359 achieve a rapid increase in worldwide 832 00:38:34,790 --> 00:38:30,800 scientific attention to this problem 833 00:38:37,670 --> 00:38:34,800 if there is in any way 834 00:38:40,069 --> 00:38:37,680 in which i can personally assist on the 835 00:38:42,870 --> 00:38:40,079 basis of my own recent scientific 836 00:38:46,630 --> 00:38:42,880 studies of this fascinating problem 837 00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:46,640 i hope that your group will call upon me 838 00:38:52,710 --> 00:38:50,640 many others whom i know would i believe 839 00:38:54,310 --> 00:38:52,720 be equally ready to assist in such 840 00:38:56,150 --> 00:38:54,320 capacity 841 00:38:58,470 --> 00:38:56,160 in the hope that a long neglected 842 00:39:01,430 --> 00:38:58,480 problem can be quickly elevated to one 843 00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:01,440 of highest scientific priority 844 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:03,599 i know of no other 845 00:39:06,550 --> 00:39:04,560 current 846 00:39:09,109 --> 00:39:06,560 scientific problem that is more 847 00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:09,119 interestingly of the nature and origin 848 00:39:16,470 --> 00:39:14,230 hence it seems indispensable to secure 849 00:39:18,150 --> 00:39:16,480 united nations involvement in the study 850 00:39:20,870 --> 00:39:18,160 of this problem 851 00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,880 the global importance 852 00:39:30,630 --> 00:39:23,359 of which may truly 853 00:39:34,470 --> 00:39:31,829 i hope you 854 00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:34,480 hope you enjoyed that 855 00:39:38,390 --> 00:39:35,599 um 856 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:38,400 it was true it's truly a pleasure uh 857 00:39:45,109 --> 00:39:41,040 reading is at work um it makes me feel a 858 00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:46,710 um 859 00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:49,920 and you know just the way he looked at 860 00:39:52,050 --> 00:39:51,760 everything was so 861 00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:52,060 um 862 00:39:55,829 --> 00:39:53,440 [Music] 863 00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,839 scientific grounded 864 00:39:58,310 --> 00:39:57,119 but also 865 00:39:59,750 --> 00:39:58,320 realistic 866 00:40:02,790 --> 00:39:59,760 so 867 00:40:04,870 --> 00:40:02,800 really appreciate the way uh that he did 868 00:40:07,589 --> 00:40:04,880 his thing 869 00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:07,599 and i'm grateful that i could read this 870 00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:10,880 stuff and that you guys are actually 871 00:40:13,510 --> 00:40:11,680 um 872 00:40:15,109 --> 00:40:13,520 you know here to listen to it because i 873 00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:15,119 feel like a lot of it 874 00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:21,030 you know 875 00:40:24,630 --> 00:40:22,720 over the decades it's just either 876 00:40:26,870 --> 00:40:24,640 forgotten about or brushed to the side i 877 00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:26,880 mean how can you keep up with all of it 878 00:40:29,750 --> 00:40:28,880 right but that's what i'm here for is is 879 00:40:33,270 --> 00:40:29,760 to 880 00:40:35,430 --> 00:40:33,280 know 881 00:40:36,790 --> 00:40:35,440 not let them die 882 00:40:38,390 --> 00:40:36,800 you know what i mean 883 00:40:40,550 --> 00:40:38,400 uh because 884 00:40:43,349 --> 00:40:40,560 just because something happened 885 00:40:44,710 --> 00:40:43,359 you know in 67 or whatever something was 886 00:40:46,069 --> 00:40:44,720 written then 887 00:40:48,309 --> 00:40:46,079 doesn't mean it should lose its 888 00:40:50,390 --> 00:40:48,319 importance value or significance 889 00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:50,400 especially in this time 890 00:40:52,630 --> 00:40:51,280 so 891 00:40:56,150 --> 00:40:52,640 um 892 00:40:57,589 --> 00:40:56,160 you know it was a pleasure doing that 893 00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:57,599 so 894 00:41:04,710 --> 00:41:00,960 oh look at that we got jay 895 00:41:08,230 --> 00:41:04,720 mr j christopher fancy boy king 896 00:41:11,829 --> 00:41:08,240 hanging out with leslie kane and 897 00:41:13,349 --> 00:41:11,839 all the cool folks down at texas 898 00:41:15,990 --> 00:41:13,359 awesome 899 00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,910 glad to have you back 900 00:41:22,230 --> 00:41:19,520 we don't have anyone scheduled for 901 00:41:23,990 --> 00:41:22,240 wednesday but maybe jay can come on and 902 00:41:27,030 --> 00:41:24,000 give us a rundown 903 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:28,150 the 904 00:41:37,109 --> 00:41:32,960 what a cool event 905 00:41:38,470 --> 00:41:37,119 and we had everyone from jacques valet 906 00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:38,480 leslie kane um 907 00:41:44,150 --> 00:41:40,800 [Music] 908 00:41:47,109 --> 00:41:44,160 and a lot of other freaking people mayan 909 00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:47,119 so um i have a couple other things that 910 00:41:51,990 --> 00:41:49,839 i'm going to run through with you 911 00:41:52,950 --> 00:41:52,000 these next few things i'm going to show 912 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:52,960 you 913 00:42:02,309 --> 00:41:59,829 ufos at air force bases now i'm not 914 00:42:04,470 --> 00:42:02,319 going to read through all these i'm just 915 00:42:06,309 --> 00:42:04,480 going to kind of show you and go through 916 00:42:07,670 --> 00:42:06,319 them and i'll make these available to 917 00:42:12,069 --> 00:42:07,680 you 918 00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:12,079 into them further and read the whole 919 00:42:15,589 --> 00:42:13,119 stories 920 00:42:17,670 --> 00:42:15,599 if you would like there is one story 921 00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:17,680 that i'll i'll read more of 922 00:42:25,030 --> 00:42:21,839 and it's regard in regards to a 1964 923 00:42:26,550 --> 00:42:25,040 uh story of a ufo landing at hallman air 924 00:42:28,950 --> 00:42:26,560 force base 925 00:42:31,349 --> 00:42:28,960 uh which is 926 00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:31,359 um actually ufo joe has been tweeting 927 00:42:37,030 --> 00:42:34,800 about and i shared the uh 928 00:42:38,550 --> 00:42:37,040 the publication in which that uh story 929 00:42:40,550 --> 00:42:38,560 came out in back then 930 00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:40,560 um so i'll just show you that maybe 931 00:42:44,710 --> 00:42:42,079 review lines of that because it's very 932 00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:44,720 interesting if true 933 00:42:49,829 --> 00:42:47,440 um and give you kind of a brief overview 934 00:42:52,069 --> 00:42:49,839 of what i'll be giving you um it's not 935 00:42:53,829 --> 00:42:52,079 homework 936 00:42:55,510 --> 00:42:53,839 kind of feels like it but you can do 937 00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:55,520 what you want with it so this kirkland 938 00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,520 airfield james mcdonald he 939 00:43:01,910 --> 00:43:00,000 this is pretty cool because he um goes 940 00:43:03,829 --> 00:43:01,920 through a story that was a part of the 941 00:43:06,069 --> 00:43:03,839 content report and 942 00:43:08,309 --> 00:43:06,079 you know pretty much deep 943 00:43:10,630 --> 00:43:08,319 debunks the content report and gives his 944 00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:10,640 take on it um so it's definitely worth 945 00:43:15,750 --> 00:43:13,599 reading this 946 00:43:18,470 --> 00:43:15,760 very much so 947 00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:18,480 because you know james mcdonald did a 948 00:43:22,230 --> 00:43:19,920 lot of his own 949 00:43:25,190 --> 00:43:22,240 scientific investigations and interviews 950 00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:25,200 of witnesses he even interviewed 951 00:43:28,309 --> 00:43:26,800 west all witnesses if you're not 952 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,319 familiar with that that was a landing in 953 00:43:31,829 --> 00:43:30,480 1966 954 00:43:34,950 --> 00:43:31,839 um 955 00:43:39,109 --> 00:43:37,349 yeah i could read them all 956 00:43:40,950 --> 00:43:39,119 and i would enjoy it but then it would 957 00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:40,960 take too long you know there's so much 958 00:43:44,710 --> 00:43:42,880 there's so much stuff to cover 959 00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:44,720 that if i read it all 960 00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,680 it'll take too long so 961 00:43:51,510 --> 00:43:49,599 i will 962 00:43:52,950 --> 00:43:51,520 share it with you although i do love 963 00:43:54,470 --> 00:43:52,960 reading it so 964 00:43:57,349 --> 00:43:54,480 um 965 00:43:59,589 --> 00:43:57,359 pretty pretty great report here though 966 00:44:01,910 --> 00:43:59,599 most definitely 967 00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:01,920 so i'll be sharing that with you 968 00:44:06,230 --> 00:44:03,599 and this is the one i was talking about 969 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:06,240 about the ufo landing so 970 00:44:11,190 --> 00:44:09,680 we have in the apr oh bulletin if you're 971 00:44:12,630 --> 00:44:11,200 not familiar you can read at the top 972 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:12,640 what it's all about 973 00:44:15,990 --> 00:44:14,160 uh it's the official copyrighted 974 00:44:20,950 --> 00:44:16,000 publication of the aerial phenomenon 975 00:44:22,950 --> 00:44:20,960 research organization at tucson arizona 976 00:44:24,950 --> 00:44:22,960 um 977 00:44:26,390 --> 00:44:24,960 this publication was pretty cool a lot 978 00:44:27,109 --> 00:44:26,400 of information came 979 00:44:29,750 --> 00:44:27,119 out 980 00:44:33,510 --> 00:44:29,760 from it back in the day 981 00:44:35,510 --> 00:44:33,520 and a lot of scientific awesome 982 00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:35,520 investigations and a lot of 983 00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:37,599 different kinds of stuff like 984 00:44:41,829 --> 00:44:38,800 you know we hear a lot about like the 985 00:44:43,990 --> 00:44:41,839 poltergeist stuff in the ufos john keel 986 00:44:45,750 --> 00:44:44,000 uh had a lot of articles in this 987 00:44:48,150 --> 00:44:45,760 bulletin back in the day where he 988 00:44:49,349 --> 00:44:48,160 touched on that stuff 989 00:44:51,349 --> 00:44:49,359 so 990 00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:51,359 it's a great place to learn about the 991 00:44:55,109 --> 00:44:52,960 phenomena as well 992 00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:55,119 uh but you know like anything especially 993 00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,560 ufo related 994 00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:58,160 you know 995 00:45:03,990 --> 00:45:01,520 as truth that's for sure 996 00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:04,000 um but if you could be uh selective and 997 00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:05,839 and go at it with a 998 00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,760 grounded attitude and cool head it you 999 00:45:11,190 --> 00:45:09,359 can get a lot of great information out 1000 00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:11,200 of it most definitely 1001 00:45:16,470 --> 00:45:13,680 um especially stuff that's so relatable 1002 00:45:18,309 --> 00:45:16,480 to what we're hearing about today 1003 00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:18,319 so this case starts where i highlighted 1004 00:45:23,190 --> 00:45:20,960 here actually 1005 00:45:25,190 --> 00:45:23,200 um is that holloman air force base 1006 00:45:26,950 --> 00:45:25,200 the following is a chronological account 1007 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:26,960 of the landing of an unconventional 1008 00:45:30,950 --> 00:45:28,880 aerial object on the north range 1009 00:45:35,190 --> 00:45:30,960 extension of the air force base on 1010 00:45:39,670 --> 00:45:38,390 uh andres good pickup on the uao yeah 1011 00:45:41,430 --> 00:45:39,680 you know they're always something 1012 00:45:43,910 --> 00:45:41,440 different 1013 00:45:46,950 --> 00:45:43,920 always uao was used a lot 1014 00:45:50,230 --> 00:45:46,960 um in the blue book files not really 1015 00:45:51,990 --> 00:45:50,240 that i could see but 1016 00:45:56,309 --> 00:45:52,000 um you know a lot of different things 1017 00:46:00,309 --> 00:45:57,910 that's why when people have so much beef 1018 00:46:03,750 --> 00:46:00,319 about unidentified aerial phenomenon or 1019 00:46:05,510 --> 00:46:03,760 uap i really just think well you may not 1020 00:46:07,270 --> 00:46:05,520 have 1021 00:46:08,710 --> 00:46:07,280 you know done i don't know i can't say 1022 00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:08,720 this about everybody 1023 00:46:11,109 --> 00:46:09,440 but 1024 00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:11,119 it makes me think you may not have done 1025 00:46:14,950 --> 00:46:12,800 much research in an actual blue book 1026 00:46:18,710 --> 00:46:14,960 files because unidentified aerial 1027 00:46:21,030 --> 00:46:18,720 phenomenon is been used since basically 1028 00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:21,040 1947 or 48 1029 00:46:24,150 --> 00:46:22,400 you know 1030 00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:24,160 um 1031 00:46:27,109 --> 00:46:25,040 so 1032 00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:27,119 i don't get what the what the beef is 1033 00:46:32,150 --> 00:46:28,960 their ufo has 1034 00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:32,160 been used uh uap uao 1035 00:46:37,670 --> 00:46:35,119 um and all sorts of different ones 1036 00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:37,680 uh even from the cia documents we we 1037 00:46:42,069 --> 00:46:38,720 read 1038 00:46:43,670 --> 00:46:42,079 uh from last week they were called 1039 00:46:46,790 --> 00:46:43,680 something else they were called a flying 1040 00:46:49,829 --> 00:46:46,800 unidentified object 1041 00:46:53,349 --> 00:46:51,910 and the navy documents we just read over 1042 00:46:54,630 --> 00:46:53,359 you know 1043 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:54,640 that 1044 00:47:01,349 --> 00:46:57,599 those are called uh i forgot already but 1045 00:47:05,670 --> 00:47:03,109 so 1046 00:47:07,510 --> 00:47:05,680 oh my god 1047 00:47:09,190 --> 00:47:07,520 coming in with the bruce cathy a new 1048 00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:09,200 zealand pilot love your channel thanks 1049 00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:11,359 man yeah i actually did an episode on 1050 00:47:17,109 --> 00:47:14,400 bruce cathy um during my earlier days i 1051 00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:17,119 found some of his work very intriguing 1052 00:47:20,549 --> 00:47:18,240 actually 1053 00:47:25,589 --> 00:47:22,790 you know i wish i was smart enough to 1054 00:47:27,610 --> 00:47:25,599 know if what he was talking about was 1055 00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,620 accurate or not but 1056 00:47:31,190 --> 00:47:29,440 [Music] 1057 00:47:32,870 --> 00:47:31,200 basically 1058 00:47:33,829 --> 00:47:32,880 you'll have to look into it for yourself 1059 00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:33,839 but 1060 00:47:38,309 --> 00:47:36,079 um 1061 00:47:41,829 --> 00:47:38,319 very interesting subject though for sure 1062 00:47:45,430 --> 00:47:43,870 so back to the story here we got um 1063 00:47:47,270 --> 00:47:45,440 [Music] 1064 00:47:49,430 --> 00:47:47,280 a few miles east of san antonio new 1065 00:47:50,470 --> 00:47:49,440 mexico which is interesting trinity 1066 00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,480 right 1067 00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,359 called mission control on the radio 1068 00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:55,280 i just want to read the interesting part 1069 00:47:59,349 --> 00:47:58,319 so keep in mind this is 1070 00:48:07,829 --> 00:47:59,359 um 1071 00:48:09,670 --> 00:48:07,839 after 1072 00:48:10,710 --> 00:48:09,680 socorro 1073 00:48:12,390 --> 00:48:10,720 where the 1074 00:48:13,670 --> 00:48:12,400 um cop 1075 00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:13,680 saw the 1076 00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:14,960 extra 1077 00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:17,440 egg shaped object 1078 00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:19,839 that wound up taking off this pretty big 1079 00:48:25,109 --> 00:48:21,520 story i got an episode on that if you 1080 00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:27,829 uh the pilot explained i've got a ufo 1081 00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:29,680 the controller then asked what does it 1082 00:48:35,270 --> 00:48:31,839 look like the pilot answered it's 1083 00:48:37,750 --> 00:48:35,280 egg-shaped and white 1084 00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:37,760 any markings s control 1085 00:48:42,549 --> 00:48:40,640 the same as the one at socorro the pilot 1086 00:48:44,390 --> 00:48:42,559 said it then added i'm going to make 1087 00:48:45,670 --> 00:48:44,400 another pass 1088 00:48:47,270 --> 00:48:45,680 so if you're not familiar with the 1089 00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:47,280 markings with score you can just look 1090 00:48:51,030 --> 00:48:49,280 that up 1091 00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,040 there's a lot of controversy with that 1092 00:48:56,069 --> 00:48:52,880 so i would advise not to get wrapped up 1093 00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,230 minutes later the huge cumbersome bomber 1094 00:49:02,790 --> 00:49:01,040 made its turn and had come in over the 1095 00:49:04,470 --> 00:49:02,800 area where the ufo was first seen where 1096 00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,480 upon the pilot called control again and 1097 00:49:08,710 --> 00:49:06,880 reported it's on the ground 1098 00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,720 at this point communication sees photo 1099 00:49:11,190 --> 00:49:10,079 crews who were alerted and asked to 1100 00:49:13,270 --> 00:49:11,200 stand by 1101 00:49:16,710 --> 00:49:13,280 this information was first relayed to 1102 00:49:18,790 --> 00:49:16,720 aproa by a very reliable source however 1103 00:49:21,750 --> 00:49:18,800 we felt it was necessary to check if 1104 00:49:23,510 --> 00:49:21,760 possible our other sources in the 1105 00:49:27,670 --> 00:49:23,520 um 1106 00:49:31,990 --> 00:49:30,069 i would just butcher that name i know so 1107 00:49:33,510 --> 00:49:32,000 and to our great surprise got 1108 00:49:35,430 --> 00:49:33,520 confirmation almost immediately our 1109 00:49:37,750 --> 00:49:35,440 first inquiry was to terry clark of a 1110 00:49:40,230 --> 00:49:37,760 radio station 1111 00:49:42,790 --> 00:49:40,240 uh k-a-l-g who was surprised to hear 1112 00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,800 that we already knew of the landing he 1113 00:49:46,710 --> 00:49:44,640 said that he hadn't intended to write 1114 00:49:48,390 --> 00:49:46,720 the details and forwarded them to us as 1115 00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:48,400 information had come from a ham radio 1116 00:49:52,710 --> 00:49:50,640 operator who had been monitoring various 1117 00:49:54,549 --> 00:49:52,720 frequencies while checking out some 1118 00:49:56,470 --> 00:49:54,559 equipment when he picked up the 1119 00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:56,480 frequency which the bomber and mission 1120 00:50:04,309 --> 00:49:59,119 control were using he listened 1121 00:50:06,710 --> 00:50:04,319 fascinated until communications ceased 1122 00:50:07,430 --> 00:50:06,720 so you see this mrs lorenz here so she 1123 00:50:08,549 --> 00:50:07,440 was um 1124 00:50:10,829 --> 00:50:08,559 [Music] 1125 00:50:13,030 --> 00:50:10,839 her and her husband i believe own this 1126 00:50:14,630 --> 00:50:13,040 bulletin i'll just be honest with you 1127 00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:14,640 some of some of the 1128 00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:16,400 sometimes i 1129 00:50:24,790 --> 00:50:22,230 i'm not sure about them but i have i 1130 00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:24,800 can't really give you 1131 00:50:27,990 --> 00:50:26,800 a confident opinion as i haven't done 1132 00:50:31,990 --> 00:50:28,000 enough 1133 00:50:36,470 --> 00:50:34,150 um you know 1134 00:50:37,829 --> 00:50:36,480 integrity or whatever but i've read 1135 00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:37,839 a couple stories here and there where 1136 00:50:42,470 --> 00:50:40,480 i'm like yeah i don't know about you 1137 00:50:46,390 --> 00:50:42,480 but you know i could i could be wrong 1138 00:50:52,309 --> 00:50:48,390 um 1139 00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,319 and then it continues here on page three 1140 00:50:55,990 --> 00:50:54,079 he had also heard about the landing but 1141 00:50:57,829 --> 00:50:56,000 said that when he attempted to get 1142 00:51:00,630 --> 00:50:57,839 confirmation by a check with air force 1143 00:51:03,190 --> 00:51:00,640 authorities at holman he got the usual 1144 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:03,200 run around so gave up on it 1145 00:51:07,030 --> 00:51:05,280 he was more or less surprised that we 1146 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:07,040 knew of it 1147 00:51:10,309 --> 00:51:08,490 um so it goes on here 1148 00:51:12,790 --> 00:51:10,319 [Music] 1149 00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:12,800 pretty good it takes about uh the full 1150 00:51:19,750 --> 00:51:15,440 page i believe 1151 00:51:23,990 --> 00:51:21,589 and i hope you do 1152 00:51:25,030 --> 00:51:24,000 um although the you know the validity of 1153 00:51:26,710 --> 00:51:25,040 it 1154 00:51:29,030 --> 00:51:26,720 i'm not sure but the the cool thing 1155 00:51:30,470 --> 00:51:29,040 about this bulletin is it covers a lot 1156 00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:30,480 of different cases that 1157 00:51:35,030 --> 00:51:33,680 happen in 64 which there are blue book 1158 00:51:37,990 --> 00:51:35,040 reports for 1159 00:51:40,390 --> 00:51:38,000 um which include 1160 00:51:41,829 --> 00:51:40,400 montana another one in mexico 1161 00:51:43,670 --> 00:51:41,839 that were landings and they were called 1162 00:51:45,670 --> 00:51:43,680 egg-shaped so 1163 00:51:46,950 --> 00:51:45,680 you know a lot of people kind of go to 1164 00:51:50,470 --> 00:51:46,960 the 1165 00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:50,480 landings around 1166 00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,960 the socorro case 1167 00:51:57,109 --> 00:51:54,640 they tend to blame it on 1168 00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:57,119 well socorro just happened and people 1169 00:52:01,750 --> 00:51:58,559 are trying to 1170 00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:01,760 you know basically 1171 00:52:11,589 --> 00:52:09,750 which you know is typical i guess 1172 00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:11,599 interesting though that there was a case 1173 00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,880 even in 1174 00:52:17,990 --> 00:52:15,440 1964 in uh 1175 00:52:20,470 --> 00:52:18,000 australia 1176 00:52:21,670 --> 00:52:20,480 i went over that on this show a while 1177 00:52:24,309 --> 00:52:21,680 ago but 1178 00:52:25,750 --> 00:52:24,319 it was landing described as the same so 1179 00:52:27,349 --> 00:52:25,760 that's always the thing with this stuff 1180 00:52:30,230 --> 00:52:27,359 is it's worldwide you know and the 1181 00:52:33,990 --> 00:52:30,240 reports are so similar 1182 00:52:36,870 --> 00:52:34,790 not 1183 00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:36,880 great 1184 00:52:42,950 --> 00:52:39,040 a couple other files i'm gonna give you 1185 00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,960 uh this one is uh harmon air force base 1186 00:52:48,870 --> 00:52:44,720 uh newfoundland 1187 00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:50,790 pretty cool um the reason i'm giving 1188 00:52:54,790 --> 00:52:52,480 that one to you um is because it's a 1189 00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,800 good case right here you can see 1190 00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,880 uh at the moment there appears to be no 1191 00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,720 logical explanation for this incident 1192 00:53:02,950 --> 00:53:00,800 there is nothing to indicate 1193 00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:02,960 uh astronomical origin 1194 00:53:08,870 --> 00:53:06,640 of the object observed 1195 00:53:12,829 --> 00:53:08,880 he had three balloon observers 1196 00:53:12,839 --> 00:53:17,670 then yeah we're balloon observers 1197 00:53:19,990 --> 00:53:19,030 and i know you're saying it's a balloon 1198 00:53:23,430 --> 00:53:20,000 but 1199 00:53:25,430 --> 00:53:23,440 it wasn't blue so april 5th 1948 that's 1200 00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:25,440 going back 1201 00:53:33,349 --> 00:53:29,920 so it's definitely worth 1202 00:53:37,750 --> 00:53:35,829 definitely definitely definitely so i'll 1203 00:53:39,670 --> 00:53:37,760 share that with you 1204 00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:39,680 and it's a few pages as you can see it 1205 00:53:46,549 --> 00:53:43,680 was a part of project sign here 1206 00:53:48,710 --> 00:53:46,559 i just grabbed it from my 1207 00:53:51,510 --> 00:53:48,720 google drive archives i have a lot of 1208 00:53:54,710 --> 00:53:53,349 this is pretty interesting i don't even 1209 00:53:58,069 --> 00:53:54,720 think i've ever read this part of it 1210 00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,079 analysis of project grudge report 1211 00:54:01,190 --> 00:53:59,920 that's cool 1212 00:54:04,470 --> 00:54:01,200 i'll have to look through that 1213 00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:09,109 there's so many documents 1214 00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:12,549 so many 1215 00:54:19,349 --> 00:54:16,790 that it's it's just like impossible to 1216 00:54:21,349 --> 00:54:19,359 uh get a hold on everything that happens 1217 00:54:23,349 --> 00:54:21,359 so there's so much more to be discovered 1218 00:54:25,109 --> 00:54:23,359 in these blue book files 1219 00:54:27,030 --> 00:54:25,119 some of the pages kind of suck like this 1220 00:54:29,670 --> 00:54:27,040 one but 1221 00:54:33,750 --> 00:54:31,109 probably have a better copy of it 1222 00:54:36,789 --> 00:54:33,760 somewhere maybe 1223 00:54:39,109 --> 00:54:36,799 occupation of observer geophysics lab 1224 00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:39,119 section 1225 00:54:42,069 --> 00:54:40,559 interesting 1226 00:54:44,549 --> 00:54:42,079 the more i look at this stuff the more 1227 00:54:47,829 --> 00:54:44,559 geophysics pops up 1228 00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:52,069 yeah geophysics 1229 00:54:55,510 --> 00:54:53,510 so yep 1230 00:54:57,829 --> 00:54:55,520 violent maneuvers performed at a high 1231 00:54:59,430 --> 00:54:57,839 rate of speed 1232 00:55:00,470 --> 00:54:59,440 interesting 1233 00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:00,480 um 1234 00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:08,870 electronic and atmospheric division 1235 00:55:12,950 --> 00:55:10,870 pretty cool man there's a there is some 1236 00:55:14,630 --> 00:55:12,960 good stuff in here 1237 00:55:16,710 --> 00:55:14,640 watson laboratories i've seen that 1238 00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:16,720 before 1239 00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:19,280 take a peek take a peek at it i 1240 00:55:23,510 --> 00:55:20,960 obviously haven't read this one all the 1241 00:55:26,390 --> 00:55:23,520 way yet 1242 00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:28,710 dr j peoples of the watson laboratories 1243 00:55:31,750 --> 00:55:30,559 has information that would be of vital 1244 00:55:33,190 --> 00:55:31,760 importance to the intelligence 1245 00:55:38,470 --> 00:55:33,200 department 1246 00:55:42,549 --> 00:55:39,990 cool 1247 00:55:46,069 --> 00:55:42,559 um and then the last thing i wanted to 1248 00:55:51,190 --> 00:55:49,109 i have a couple things but um and i'm 1249 00:55:52,630 --> 00:55:51,200 not gonna ruin all these for you now 1250 00:55:56,390 --> 00:55:52,640 because there's 1251 00:55:58,309 --> 00:55:56,400 one more thing i want to get into today 1252 00:55:59,990 --> 00:55:58,319 um and i don't have a show tomorrow by 1253 00:56:02,630 --> 00:56:00,000 the way 1254 00:56:05,349 --> 00:56:02,640 just so you know 1255 00:56:07,109 --> 00:56:05,359 but these are photos taken from air 1256 00:56:12,470 --> 00:56:07,119 force bases 1257 00:56:17,430 --> 00:56:15,190 photos of ufos taken 1258 00:56:19,829 --> 00:56:17,440 from air force bases 1259 00:56:22,789 --> 00:56:19,839 it must be interesting 1260 00:56:25,589 --> 00:56:22,799 now the photos themselves 1261 00:56:27,190 --> 00:56:25,599 much to be desired as always right but 1262 00:56:30,150 --> 00:56:27,200 if these are trained personnel taking 1263 00:56:33,430 --> 00:56:30,160 the photographs i would have to imagine 1264 00:56:36,710 --> 00:56:33,440 what they actually saw with their eyes 1265 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:43,670 let me zoom out here a little bit 1266 00:56:49,270 --> 00:56:45,829 kind so see that just go through these 1267 00:56:56,069 --> 00:56:51,910 must be that black cylinder there 1268 00:57:01,430 --> 00:56:59,349 interesting that um but these i'll give 1269 00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:01,440 to you as well 1270 00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:11,109 and a hallman air force base 1271 00:57:14,789 --> 00:57:13,359 oh we just looked at that one already 1272 00:57:16,549 --> 00:57:14,799 so yeah that's why i wanted to share 1273 00:57:18,150 --> 00:57:16,559 those because they're at that 1274 00:57:19,670 --> 00:57:18,160 harman newfoundland this one's pretty 1275 00:57:21,589 --> 00:57:19,680 interesting you can kind of see a streak 1276 00:57:22,870 --> 00:57:21,599 of smoke come down here 1277 00:57:26,630 --> 00:57:22,880 it kind of seems like it would be a 1278 00:57:27,510 --> 00:57:26,640 missile or a meteor i guess 1279 00:57:29,750 --> 00:57:27,520 but 1280 00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:29,760 the kind of thing that 1281 00:57:36,630 --> 00:57:32,400 makes you think that it wasn't 1282 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,190 this 1283 00:57:44,230 --> 00:57:41,910 flag saucer alleged specimens they put 1284 00:57:46,630 --> 00:57:44,240 hoax 1285 00:57:48,549 --> 00:57:46,640 and this is with the newfoundland 1286 00:57:50,230 --> 00:57:48,559 air force base 1287 00:57:53,510 --> 00:57:50,240 pictures 1288 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:58,870 that this was a hoax 1289 00:58:06,829 --> 00:58:01,750 i don't understand 1290 00:58:10,870 --> 00:58:06,839 but i i must say that when i saw this 1291 00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:10,880 picture i know that it exists somewhere 1292 00:58:16,230 --> 00:58:12,799 else within blue book 1293 00:58:17,910 --> 00:58:16,240 and i just can't remember where 1294 00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:17,920 because i remember when it came up i was 1295 00:58:22,870 --> 00:58:20,400 like this i've seen this before 1296 00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,880 but not in this newfoundland air force 1297 00:58:26,069 --> 00:58:24,960 base folder so i'm 1298 00:58:27,829 --> 00:58:26,079 unsure 1299 00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:27,839 of what the real deal is here with this 1300 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:29,680 stuff but 1301 00:58:32,069 --> 00:58:29,970 um 1302 00:58:33,910 --> 00:58:32,079 [Music] 1303 00:58:36,950 --> 00:58:33,920 this is very interesting to me at least 1304 00:58:42,150 --> 00:58:36,960 at the very least so 1305 00:58:47,270 --> 00:58:45,349 i'm not sure if it's like this uh 1306 00:58:48,789 --> 00:58:47,280 i would assume it's this white tic tac 1307 00:58:56,390 --> 00:58:48,799 looking thing 1308 00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:01,430 you can see it 1309 00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,829 changes to a cylinder 1310 00:59:06,950 --> 00:59:05,040 tic tac 1311 00:59:09,510 --> 00:59:06,960 cylinder 1312 00:59:12,549 --> 00:59:11,510 they took like 40 freaking photos of it 1313 00:59:16,789 --> 00:59:12,559 so they must have thought it was 1314 00:59:19,510 --> 00:59:17,750 what 1315 00:59:23,670 --> 00:59:19,520 i don't know 1316 00:59:30,829 --> 00:59:25,829 this one's interesting that could be 1317 00:59:30,839 --> 00:59:35,829 hmm cool 1318 00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:38,150 but yeah i don't know 1319 00:59:42,630 --> 00:59:40,640 here's some more ones uh 1320 00:59:49,270 --> 00:59:42,640 you can see here 1321 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:53,349 it's very interesting to me 1322 00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:58,150 this again is edwards air force base 1323 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:04,789 took these pictures 1324 01:00:08,470 --> 01:00:07,109 so that's what another this looks like 1325 01:00:13,349 --> 01:00:08,480 tic tac again 1326 01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,870 it's like i don't think edwards air 1327 01:00:20,150 --> 01:00:16,559 force base is going to pull a joke on 1328 01:00:25,190 --> 01:00:22,150 uh then we have tinker air force base 1329 01:00:30,309 --> 01:00:26,829 pretty 1330 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:34,390 it's air force base 1331 01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,789 you know 1332 01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:41,190 uh westover air force base 1333 01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:43,359 i'm not sure oh yeah we got the two tick 1334 01:00:48,069 --> 01:00:46,319 decks up there in the sky 1335 01:00:50,309 --> 01:00:48,079 got a plane out there too which is very 1336 01:00:52,470 --> 01:00:50,319 interesting 1337 01:00:54,950 --> 01:00:52,480 i think it's a plane 1338 01:00:59,190 --> 01:00:54,960 you zoom in maybe it's a saucer 1339 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,910 but yeah 1340 01:01:04,630 --> 01:01:03,190 you can see those there yeah i mean 1341 01:01:08,470 --> 01:01:04,640 they're not like 1342 01:01:13,109 --> 01:01:11,349 great 1343 01:01:15,589 --> 01:01:13,119 uh you know 1344 01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:15,599 you i have i have yet to find like 1345 01:01:20,630 --> 01:01:17,440 there are definitely great saucer 1346 01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:20,640 pictures in the blue book files but 1347 01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,359 um it's just like that has to be fake 1348 01:01:29,589 --> 01:01:25,440 it's so great this one is pretty good 1349 01:01:35,430 --> 01:01:32,470 in the entire blue book repertoire 1350 01:01:37,990 --> 01:01:35,440 and i can't find the freaking blue book 1351 01:01:41,190 --> 01:01:38,000 case for it which sucks 1352 01:01:45,589 --> 01:01:41,200 because it's such a good photo to me 1353 01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:47,349 you can tell it's in the sky probably 1354 01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:50,000 taken by pilot 1355 01:01:57,990 --> 01:01:56,549 and then 1356 01:01:59,910 --> 01:01:58,000 you have some 1357 01:02:02,549 --> 01:01:59,920 uh whiteman airport space you get some 1358 01:02:05,029 --> 01:02:02,559 radar stuff 1359 01:02:06,549 --> 01:02:05,039 it's pretty cool 1360 01:02:10,789 --> 01:02:06,559 i don't know necessarily what i'm 1361 01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:15,910 i could probably figure it out 1362 01:02:20,309 --> 01:02:18,789 unidentified apparently 1363 01:02:26,470 --> 01:02:20,319 this one's crazy this must have been 1364 01:02:28,950 --> 01:02:28,069 you know 1365 01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:28,960 uh 1366 01:02:39,990 --> 01:02:31,839 i guess when you hear about jamming or 1367 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:43,190 could be possibly 1368 01:02:48,150 --> 01:02:44,630 a lot of weird stuff was happening 1369 01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:50,710 this one 1370 01:02:59,430 --> 01:02:52,710 we need like a radar specialist to tell 1371 01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,150 but it is interesting 1372 01:03:09,589 --> 01:03:06,549 this one looks very you know 1373 01:03:13,510 --> 01:03:11,349 wish i could tell you what it means i 1374 01:03:16,470 --> 01:03:13,520 can't but it doesn't look normal and 1375 01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:16,480 they put it in a daggone ufo photo 1376 01:03:20,950 --> 01:03:18,319 department 1377 01:03:22,309 --> 01:03:20,960 so must be some 1378 01:03:24,710 --> 01:03:22,319 moving on 1379 01:03:26,549 --> 01:03:24,720 fairfield 1380 01:03:28,069 --> 01:03:26,559 air force base california this is an 1381 01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:28,079 interesting photo 1382 01:03:32,309 --> 01:03:30,640 um it's sideways 1383 01:03:34,309 --> 01:03:32,319 or you know 1384 01:03:35,829 --> 01:03:34,319 it should be 1385 01:03:38,150 --> 01:03:35,839 turned i believe because that looks like 1386 01:03:40,069 --> 01:03:38,160 the sky doesn't it 1387 01:03:41,829 --> 01:03:40,079 i could probably do that quick 1388 01:03:43,589 --> 01:03:41,839 yeah 1389 01:03:47,349 --> 01:03:43,599 so that's pretty interesting looks like 1390 01:03:50,069 --> 01:03:48,710 although 1391 01:03:51,829 --> 01:03:50,079 you know i'm not sure if it's a blemish 1392 01:03:53,349 --> 01:03:51,839 or yeah here's a wing out there you can 1393 01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:53,359 see it 1394 01:04:02,390 --> 01:03:59,349 we already saw those 1395 01:04:04,470 --> 01:04:02,400 so i'll share these with you 1396 01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:04,480 and yeah 1397 01:04:09,510 --> 01:04:06,720 so let me actually get the google drive 1398 01:04:12,390 --> 01:04:09,520 link for you so i can share it 1399 01:04:14,950 --> 01:04:12,400 so you can share it you can look at it 1400 01:04:17,190 --> 01:04:14,960 you can do whatever you want with it you 1401 01:04:20,470 --> 01:04:17,200 cannot do anything with it 1402 01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:24,789 i'm gonna give it to you 1403 01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:31,349 that's for sure 1404 01:04:34,309 --> 01:04:32,630 all right there you go 1405 01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:34,319 google drive at you 1406 01:04:38,789 --> 01:04:37,520 and um to 1407 01:04:40,549 --> 01:04:38,799 finish 1408 01:04:41,910 --> 01:04:40,559 this show off 1409 01:04:44,230 --> 01:04:41,920 we're gonna do 1410 01:04:45,190 --> 01:04:44,240 just a little bit 1411 01:04:47,150 --> 01:04:45,200 of 1412 01:04:54,790 --> 01:04:47,160 what the heck is that 1413 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,710 [Music] 1414 01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:00,870 [Laughter] 1415 01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:02,319 that's right i made a new song for what 1416 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:04,960 the heck is that 1417 01:05:14,410 --> 01:05:18,540 [Music] 1418 01:05:23,349 --> 01:05:20,870 [Laughter] 1419 01:05:25,990 --> 01:05:23,359 all right here we go so 1420 01:05:26,870 --> 01:05:26,000 uh i have a few videos here 1421 01:05:29,109 --> 01:05:26,880 and 1422 01:05:31,510 --> 01:05:29,119 i am just going to 1423 01:05:33,029 --> 01:05:31,520 let them play some have sound some don't 1424 01:05:34,630 --> 01:05:33,039 have sound so 1425 01:05:37,430 --> 01:05:34,640 um 1426 01:05:38,950 --> 01:05:37,440 sorry if they don't have sound but 1427 01:05:41,190 --> 01:05:38,960 let me actually 1428 01:05:44,150 --> 01:05:41,200 do my part to make sure 1429 01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:44,160 that if it has sound it will 1430 01:05:52,470 --> 01:05:50,230 because that would be important right 1431 01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:52,480 okay 1432 01:05:55,990 --> 01:05:53,680 q 1433 01:06:15,270 --> 01:05:56,000 here we go this one's pretty interesting 1434 01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:21,270 this 1435 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:30,470 whoops sorry about that 1436 01:06:37,109 --> 01:06:33,670 apparently this is um 1437 01:06:38,789 --> 01:06:37,119 like uh gimbal footage or something but 1438 01:06:42,630 --> 01:06:38,799 you can see they kind of look like tic 1439 01:06:53,990 --> 01:06:46,789 it's super shaky unfortunately but 1440 01:07:04,150 --> 01:06:55,109 i thought that one was pretty 1441 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,730 so 1442 01:07:18,230 --> 01:07:08,630 [Music] 1443 01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:29,349 it's pretty weird 1444 01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:32,470 definitely weird 1445 01:07:43,270 --> 01:07:34,069 but you just never know with this stuff 1446 01:07:49,029 --> 01:07:45,589 interesting 1447 01:07:52,390 --> 01:07:49,039 god there's a there's something purple 1448 01:07:53,990 --> 01:07:52,400 it was green my wife saw it green and 1449 01:07:55,990 --> 01:07:54,000 now it's purple 1450 01:07:58,549 --> 01:07:56,000 we do not know what it is look at the 1451 01:08:01,190 --> 01:07:58,559 sky over there i kid you not right babe 1452 01:08:04,390 --> 01:08:01,200 yeah it was green and it came straight 1453 01:08:08,870 --> 01:08:04,400 down we thought it was a meteor 1454 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:12,549 now it's green 1455 01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:21,349 it's green and going straight up 1456 01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:23,510 just let this look now it's hovering 1457 01:08:36,950 --> 01:08:34,149 is descending at an extremely 1458 01:08:39,590 --> 01:08:36,960 alarming rate of speed 1459 01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,600 that is 1460 01:08:44,550 --> 01:08:41,440 get my bearings here this is really 1461 01:08:49,430 --> 01:08:47,669 and it went out oh it's purple again 1462 01:08:50,550 --> 01:08:49,440 that's uh 1463 01:08:58,789 --> 01:08:50,560 man 1464 01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:02,550 went behind the tree 1465 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:08,950 look at it now it turned green again 1466 01:09:14,550 --> 01:09:10,950 i've never seen anything like this in my 1467 01:09:16,630 --> 01:09:14,560 life oh it's flying 1468 01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,640 it's now flying 1469 01:09:21,030 --> 01:09:18,640 right above our fence line 1470 01:09:23,510 --> 01:09:21,040 going east and it stopped 1471 01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:23,520 and vanished 1472 01:09:26,470 --> 01:09:25,199 now it's purple 1473 01:09:27,590 --> 01:09:26,480 look at this 1474 01:09:29,189 --> 01:09:27,600 sky 1475 01:09:35,269 --> 01:09:29,199 this guy gives me a 1476 01:09:39,269 --> 01:09:37,269 i don't know i don't want it to be too 1477 01:09:48,870 --> 01:09:39,279 shaky 1478 01:09:48,880 --> 01:10:08,790 excuse the language 1479 01:10:16,950 --> 01:10:10,790 i hate seeing like these albums on here 1480 01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:37,270 but you know 1481 01:10:50,470 --> 01:10:38,229 yeah 1482 01:10:50,480 --> 01:11:08,550 that's interesting 1483 01:11:08,560 --> 01:11:58,870 it's gone now 1484 01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:14,670 is 1485 01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,070 [Music] 1486 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:49,030 approaching us 1487 01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:52,229 flying around 1488 01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:55,669 27 1489 01:12:55,679 --> 01:13:05,669 30 000 feet 1490 01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:24,790 i don't know what that would be 1491 01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:27,910 i don't 1492 01:13:37,030 --> 01:13:33,830 how do you not know what that could be 1493 01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:50,950 i like that sign down there no humans 1494 01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:57,189 oh that was a plane shoot 1495 01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:01,270 it's very close to us wow 1496 01:14:07,350 --> 01:14:04,080 so i'm out here recording 1497 01:14:10,550 --> 01:14:07,360 some kind of lights in the sky 1498 01:14:12,229 --> 01:14:10,560 you can see them over there the distance 1499 01:14:18,310 --> 01:14:12,239 not making any sound i don't know what 1500 01:14:24,390 --> 01:14:21,110 so i'm out here recording 1501 01:14:27,830 --> 01:14:24,400 some kind of lights in the sky 1502 01:14:29,510 --> 01:14:27,840 you can see them over there the 1503 01:14:34,630 --> 01:14:29,520 making any sound i don't know what that 1504 01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:39,510 look at that 1505 01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:47,350 look at those lights 1506 01:14:50,390 --> 01:14:48,870 right here 1507 01:14:52,630 --> 01:14:50,400 i think one just disappeared i don't 1508 01:14:55,990 --> 01:14:52,640 know it's one two three it's four lights 1509 01:15:04,070 --> 01:14:56,000 four of them 1510 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:10,229 getting a little grainy when i zoom in 1511 01:15:14,470 --> 01:15:11,830 they're disappearing one by one and they 1512 01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:14,480 reappear i see two 1513 01:15:20,149 --> 01:15:17,760 one splashing what is that 1514 01:15:21,669 --> 01:15:20,159 and there's just one 1515 01:15:29,669 --> 01:15:21,679 you see that one right there still kind 1516 01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:33,110 well then they're all gone 1517 01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:37,590 or the other one's faint 1518 01:15:42,870 --> 01:15:38,950 i don't know what that was i was in the 1519 01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:50,390 and down there going 1520 01:16:06,390 --> 01:15:52,870 so they came back i don't know what 1521 01:16:10,310 --> 01:16:07,910 there's the other one again there's 1522 01:16:13,590 --> 01:16:10,320 another one 1523 01:16:16,870 --> 01:16:13,600 this is probably the third time 1524 01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:17,990 keep preparing and then they'll 1525 01:16:29,270 --> 01:16:23,110 there you go going away 1526 01:16:33,990 --> 01:16:30,790 kind of like flashing getting brighter 1527 01:16:38,070 --> 01:16:36,070 is crazy there's a plane over there 1528 01:16:39,270 --> 01:16:38,080 we're playing there's a plane right 1529 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:39,280 there 1530 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:50,390 now you can see those three 1531 01:16:53,910 --> 01:16:52,070 i need to get my video camera i think 1532 01:17:07,750 --> 01:16:53,920 i'll get better quality this is just 1533 01:17:12,630 --> 01:17:09,189 that's it yo 1534 01:17:17,110 --> 01:17:14,950 do you guys 1535 01:17:18,760 --> 01:17:17,120 like would you like to be able to look 1536 01:17:20,550 --> 01:17:18,770 back at those videos again 1537 01:17:23,030 --> 01:17:20,560 [Music] 1538 01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:23,040 um hopefully you can i can look at like 1539 01:17:26,390 --> 01:17:24,800 um 1540 01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:26,400 putting those in a playlist or something 1541 01:17:29,590 --> 01:17:28,000 and making sure 1542 01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:29,600 that you can see them again if you want 1543 01:17:33,110 --> 01:17:31,120 uh because that one's longer it's just 1544 01:17:35,270 --> 01:17:33,120 kind of too long 1545 01:17:43,189 --> 01:17:35,280 it's like six minutes 1546 01:17:46,550 --> 01:17:44,870 it's weird did you guys feel that that 1547 01:17:48,470 --> 01:17:46,560 was weird 1548 01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:48,480 well that was a great segment 1549 01:17:56,130 --> 01:18:02,630 [Music] 1550 01:18:07,030 --> 01:18:05,830 oh yeah it's the 1551 01:18:09,510 --> 01:18:07,040 the heck 1552 01:18:11,189 --> 01:18:09,520 um so i have a playlist it's called the 1553 01:18:14,630 --> 01:18:11,199 heck playlist 1554 01:18:17,430 --> 01:18:14,640 and i can what i can do here 1555 01:18:19,910 --> 01:18:17,440 is make it 1556 01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:21,430 i can make it 1557 01:18:30,149 --> 01:18:28,950 how i'm not exactly sure oh here we go 1558 01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:30,159 all right 1559 01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:38,550 so i will share it with you 1560 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:43,510 lucky mother efforts 1561 01:18:47,270 --> 01:18:45,669 um again 1562 01:18:48,790 --> 01:18:47,280 you know if you come across cool videos 1563 01:18:51,030 --> 01:18:48,800 let me know 1564 01:18:55,110 --> 01:18:51,040 i did a little bit of watching today so 1565 01:18:57,990 --> 01:18:55,120 i think we got some decent ones 1566 01:19:01,669 --> 01:18:58,000 as opposed to usual 1567 01:19:03,910 --> 01:19:01,679 um so yeah hope you enjoyed that 1568 01:19:07,110 --> 01:19:03,920 and that's it for the stream so 1569 01:19:09,669 --> 01:19:07,120 thanks everybody for hanging out 1570 01:19:13,750 --> 01:19:09,679 being the best being awesome 1571 01:19:17,430 --> 01:19:15,990 which maybe we'll have jay christopher 1572 01:19:20,149 --> 01:19:17,440 king on wednesday and we'll talk about 1573 01:19:24,390 --> 01:19:21,350 to 1574 01:19:26,630 --> 01:19:24,400 the archives of the impossible that 1575 01:19:28,070 --> 01:19:26,640 would be pretty cool 1576 01:19:30,709 --> 01:19:28,080 so 1577 01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:30,719 yeah that being said 1578 01:19:50,310 --> 01:19:47,510 [Music] 1579 01:19:53,110 --> 01:19:50,320 you know i should say make sure you like 1580 01:19:57,750 --> 01:19:55,350 you know i always forget to say that 1581 01:20:02,420 --> 01:19:57,760 so make sure you like the video